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e-fuel cars also generate noise, sound pollution. Sad that Germany prevented us from getting rid of that noisy redneck revving his expensive engine in the middle of the city.

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Also Italy and Poland supported Germany on this. I suspect that the real motivation is that the automotive industry in these countries creates loads of jobs both directly and indirectly. Electric cars being simpler and needing less maintenance will kill positions in the 10s of thousands.

Nothing electric is ever simpler and requires less maintenance than the mechanic version. Idk where you get that from.

I made the mistake to buy an electric oven, super modern type. The number of times it displayed an "E" for error in the display, I stopped counting. Any electric component will not only last less longer but also be more error prone and will need to be repaired more often.

Electrical car are documented almost everywhere with lower maintenance cost than gas prices, mostly because there are fewer moving parts and fluids. You can hardly compare anecdotical issue related to electric oven with macro statistics on gas and electric cars.

Not just that. For huge part of Polish population new EVs will be unaffordable. ICEs got more expensive in the recent year, but that still much lesser than EVs.

They need to phase out the motorcycles also. Where I live those are the worst.

All cars generate noise pollution. Most noise in cars is produced by tyres.

Tyres noises are not what spikes my blood pressure in the middle of the night. Those are engine/tailpipe noises.

Exactly, I live on a very active street and the daily noise is killing me softly. Especially those "punks" with their motorbikes or pimped engines and exhausts.

Silence is a luxury I don't have. Only at night between 2-4AM. I've recently started wearing a full ear headset to dampen some of the noise.

I wish I could just move out, but other flats cost double the price.

Which country? I'm in Japan, and the cult of noisy cars/motorbikes here is both disgusting and hopeless (given the planned disappearance of ICE vehicles), but very ingrained (among both middle-aged and young men). Moreover it's actually illegal (law limits engine noises to 80dB), but police seems to have given up.

Ideally I'd move to a country with more regard towards silence, calm and cardiovascular health of citizens.

Germany, SW part. I think we notice because both our countries are rather small and have a high population density.

Yes, and moreover both countries have a strong and historical ICE automotive industry...

Which can explain a large part of the conservatism in this domain.

Maybe at highway speed. At city speeds I am constantly taken by surprise by electric cars that come from behind while I'm cycling (in the Netherlands, for context, where I'd estimate that at least 25% of the cars are already electric, in the city in question).

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