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Many Indians have folklore stories of Jesus visiting India and taking a mix of Buddhist literature, even early days Christianity believed in reincarnation until it was removed. And of course Buddhism took its roots from Hinduism

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This is usually sourced to the notorious forgeries by Nicholas Notovitch and Holger Kersten, the latter of which especially overlooks the elementary fact about Rozabal (in Srinagar) that “Yuz Asaf” is a very believable gloss of “bodhisattva”, especially given medieval Arabic terminology. See Shahristani, al-Biruni, etc.

There are many springs and wells across the UK and Ireland that claim to have been visited by, blessed by, or used by Jesus to perform miracles[1] There's Japanese folklore that Christ visited Japan, and is even buried there[2]. And perhaps most notably, the Mormon church claims that Jesus visited the Americas after his resurrection[3].

Historically, there's no evidence that Jesus travelled more than 200 miles from his birthplace. Folklorically, he's been everywhere that believers have been. Given the supernatural nature of these claims, it seems likely that you should believe whatever you feel is right. It doesn't seem a stretch to his abilities that Jesus appeared to many peoples across many places given the magnitude of his power and purpose, from a christian perspective.

[1] https://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=8115 [2] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-little-known-lege... [3] https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2008/07/la...

I think i saw a youtube alt history docu once that postulated that Jesus might have been a buddhist monk.

Young Jewish man runs into a Buddhist or at least Buddhist ideas in his twenties, spends a while learning about them, comes back to the temple in his thirties and starts telling people how great it would be if they were just nice to each other and maybe focus less on rules and hypocrisy. Gets killed by a Roman state that’s worried about uprisings and local Jewish leaders who don’t like different ideas. His followers tell stories about him in the following decades focusing on it being better to be poor, repressed, the Roman state feels threatened by a powerful underclass religion so they coopt it, make it the state religion, and shape it to be useful to empire. Ultimately it kind of contributes to the already crumbling empire.

All conjecture but reasonable enough.

If you start with the premise that Jesus was a real person but not divine, I think the real story would look a lot like that.

Agree, reasonable this might be closer to the real story. 1)Answers: what happened to the 12 years; 2) Why the stories were written decades later; 3) the co-opt seems likely at the 325 Council of Nicea.

As far as 2) scribes were expensive then, and paper/skins even more so. The stories weren’t written down until it was clear they were ‘hot’ and worth it.

Same with Buddhism, near as anyone can tell. None of the scripture is contemporary with Buddha.

I can even imagine one story being about "my teacher once met this dude who said we should be nice to each-other" and "a cousin heard about this guy who said that poor people should be helped by neighbors" and those somehow merged and became one person one story.

It happens today, in an era where information is/appears much more precise, people and attribution is common. e.g. quotes being attributed to Einstein or some rock-star, or actors "cancelled" for stuff some other person did or said.

I kinda always wonder about Romans doing the killing. Was it because there was something going on. Or was it the easy route out asked by local dignitaries. Hey please get rid of this guy for us. And they just obliged to do the deed. Whole washing hands of the thing points me to that direction.

Likely both. Rome had some control over the religious leadership as well. So this somewhat at least revolutionary annoyed ordinary Jews, the local Roman influenced religious leadership, and the local Roman authorities by being perceived as a kind of revolutionary at minimum in a religious sense but also in a actual sense regardless of the truth of these things.

The annoyed religious leadership referred him to the local Roman in charge of such things who had him executed.

> early days Christianity believed in reincarnation until it was removed.

I’ve never heard of this, do you have some further reading?

Lots of evidence early Christians believed in it just a sample:

https://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/historia/article/view/578#:...

Your earlier comment generalises a bit too far though. Some early christians is not the same as early Christianity. Interesting fact nonetheless.

I'm interested in this too.

I've heard an account, that some Byzantine queen-consort was told by a soothsayer that she (the queen) in her pervious life, was a witch.

So the queen asked/persuaded the king to remove this from Christianity.

I admit I’m not too well versed in the literature but I think I learned in world civilization class that one of their gods came back to life (and opened its own tomb and walked out) after ritual execution by the Romans. That puts reincarnation at the center of the story.

Resurrection is different thing than reincarnation though.

Sorry, I am not well versed in the finer subtleties of the domain's jargon.

It's not really domain specific jargon, it's just the dictionary definitions of the words.

Damn

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_vs_The_Amazing_Spider-Ma...

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