The Real Reasons for Big Tech Layoffs at Google, Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon
forbes.com
forbes.com
Just a few paragraphs earlier, the article mentioned that HR was most affected:
> However, it is interesting to note that the roles and job functions most affected were within HR, which accounted for 28 percent of all layoffs.
If they're going to mention the gender breakdown of people laid off they have to make note of gender representation of the roles going through layoffs in order to make an honest comparison.
You would expect the layoff ratio to fairly closely match the overall ratio of the positions eliminated. This might be explained by the HR bit, but it might also not be - only about a quarter of the positions eliminated were in HR, and while we know HR tends to skew female where tech tends to skew male, it's not 100% in either case.
There's not enough information available in the article itself to really come to a strong conclusion here, but it's not nearly as simple as "Well basically half of people on the planet are women so half of the people being let go being women makes sense"
No, we don't: the makeup of roles being terminated could be 56%, or even higher than 56%. The article mentioned that 28% of people laid off were HR, but didn't give a breakdown beyond that. Simply assuming that the roles being eliminated are proportional to the company's overall workforce is just as naive as assuming they're proportional to the general population.
Exactly and quite frankly unsurprising.
There is a complete delusion and a myth going around on HN that ‘seniors’ are not affected by these layoffs and proponents of that could not have been more wrong.
It is perfectly reasonable to fire them as they are totally expensive and a giant cost center to the business and to keep some extra cash would be to just reduce or remove the deadwood. Some juniors can be kept and paid less but most of them can also be let go as well if they are not quick to learn.
It was unsustainable anyway. A well deserved reset of the tech bubble that finally corrected and burst.
I refer to "It was unsustainable anyway."
And also, what is the tech bubble in this case?
They specifically weren't fired. In fact I don't think Google even really wants them to leave.
Anecdata: out of 3 people laid off on my team, all 3 were mid-level engineers. The only senior engineer on the team wasn't affected. The other two people remaining on the team (which includes me) are also mid-level engineers.
As far as I can see, the layoffs were randomized on individual level, but more targeted on the higher level. E.g., "division ABC of org XYZ could use a cut, let's randomly pick N people from this group of M teams". That's just a speculation though.
But mostly this ^ Companies are not using "return to office" policies to further shave down.
Now its the exact opposite - "other companies are downsizing to conserve costs. If we keep people, this could come to bite us in the ass because those companies can be ahead financially".
It would behoove companies to run more like Apple in the one aspect of not overhiring and avoiding hiring freezes.
When cash dried up, the music stopped and it became a game of musical chairs.