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And note that just because there are pro Ukrainian lies does not mean the Ukrainian and Russian governments and media mouthpieces lie the same amount! I personally do not have the data to make an informed assessment, but I would be unsurprised if the Ukrainian side lies less than half as much as the Russian one.

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They lied about bombing civilians in Poland, and continue to deny they are responsible in 2023. Of course, this was after they blamed Russia.

You mean the anti-air rockets that landed in Poland after they were fired to protect civilians against Russian missile strikes? That "bombing" of Poland?

It's funny how twisted is the whole narrative just to justify their actions. Pathetic.

Yes, that missile. Zelensky contradicted western reports that it was Ukrainian AA and stated repeatedly that it was a Russian missile attack on NATO territory.

So we are in agreement then that western reporting is generally accurate and the missile attacks on civilians across Ukraine are acts by Russia and not false flags ordered by Zelensky?

I'm not in agreement that western reporting is generally accurate, no.

They refused to even call that lie a lie even as they printed both facts side by side. It was bizarre.

The West definitely lies less than Ukraine though.

So is there any source of news you do trust?

Russian missiles that came from Poland, and Ukraine had to shoot in direction of Poland?

If that’s the official Ukrainian version they are up to something really big.

That's just politics and an open secret anyway. Ukraine doesn't want to officially say "Yes, our anti-air rocket missed and accidentaly landed in Poland", and Polish politicians (and people) are happy to officially pretend to believe and forget this story. Because it was an accident, and the only reason the rocket was in the air is Russia anyway.

Maybe in the ideal world we should always be open about everything, but unfortunately media, propaganda trolls and the people like you come and twist a single incident into some "both sides are equally bad" bullshit.

"Accidentally landed in their territory" pretty notably omits the civilians slain, though. Should someone be forgiven for an accident if they deny it was even them, months later?

Ukraine denies this incident to this day, and has never apologized or made it right to the civilians they killed.

They repeatedly false flagged the incident, however.

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