“Can we ban iPhone in retaliation?” Chinese internet reacts to TikTok hearing
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Tiktok hasn't broken any American laws that result in more than fine.
China's constitution is interesting, as it grants both rights and obligations on citizens, such as the obligation to observe public order and respect social morality.
http://www.npc.gov.cn/englishnpc/constitution2019/201911/1f6...
Hmm, is this true?
Amazon has amazon.cn still running as far as I know, and supports china regions in the aws-cn partition via separate companies that "operate" the regions for them.
As far as I know, meta and Google don't operate their normal services in china, but I thought they still had offices there, which presumably do something.
In that the NSA had to tap backhaul links because they couldn't simply order Google to turn over Gmail data.
And was trawling internet traffic flows because it couldn't get the data it wanted from the providers themselves.
If you have an easy button... you use it. You don't accomplish secret and expensive engineering miracles just for the hell of it. Especially not with government budgets.
Because that wasn't in the records I read.
PRISM is a code name for a program under which the United States National Security Agency (NSA) collects internet communications from various U.S. internet companies. The program is also known by the SIGAD US-984XN. PRISM collects stored internet communications based on demands made to internet companies such as Google LLC under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 to turn over any data that match court-approved search terms. Among other things, the NSA can use these PRISM requests to target communications that were encrypted when they traveled across the internet backbone, to focus on stored data that telecommunication filtering systems discarded earlier, and to get data that is easier to handle.
[1] - https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/tech/china-opposes-tiktok-sal...
Seems like the best solution to the problem.
And don't tell me you can do it with p2p - the entire point of tiktok is that you can load new videos by swiping your finger. If every video takes 10 seconds to begin buffering nobody will want to use your app.
This app can be built, quite easily, by anyone motivated to do so. Just like the kernel, just like a distribution vendor, just like any one of the thousands of highly successful open source, community-oriented projects out there.
The only open source case I can think of that has some success is Mastodon and that is because it's creators let people launch their own mini communities but that is a different social model all together, probably closer to self hosted forums with a different UX/UI. TikTok's success comes from the centralized discoverability and its algorithms. Mastodon on the other hand is a fenced garden. Almost anyone can walk through the garden gate but AFAIK there is not a centralized search function for full discoverability.
All of this is a complete waste of time.
Incorrect, there are many iPhone substitutes.
What percentage of Chinese people own an iPhone vs an Android?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/467160/forecast-of-smart...
You implied >=50%.
>I googled that for you. *paywall
I wanted you to Google it for yourself to understand just how small iPhone usage is (~20%).
Before the US sanctioned Huawei, Huawei's flagship phones were better than the iPhone (assuming you can tolerate Android).
Sanctions dealt a heavy blow to Huawei, but there are other Chinese smartphone manufacturers that make very good flagships now.
(I feel like a joke might be wooshing over my head here).
(Yeah, I was taking a stab at a more-complex joke. A bit about the hypocrisy of the Chinese position, but mostly about how narrow and simplistic the Congress and western news media seem to be on this issue. Or perhaps America's social media giants have "incentivized" our politicians and press to keep them out of it?)
Apple and Microsoft operate services under those conditions in China.
The US has its failures, but it has a much stricter and more oppositional judiciary than China.
Ergo, Google and Facebook in China would not be like TikTok Project Texas.
They let the rest of the world have nyquil chicken.
Douyin is full of trashy/silly content.
It never ceases to amaze me how blatantly false, easily disproven claims about China, such as, "Douyin is all math and science videos" become common wisdom in the US. Nobody bothers to check for themselves. Someone makes something up, and everyone else just runs with it.
The best example of this is the social credit score myth, which somehow refuses to die, despite the fact that it's untrue and completely absurd.
I mean, we are talking about a regime that kidnaps world famous artists, olympic athletes and business tycoons and dissappear them for months if they ever dare to challenge or disobey the Chinese Communist Party in any way or form.
Just imagine if in the US the goverment kidnaps Serena Williams, Jennifer Lawrence or Tim Cook and puts them out for a long time and when they return they are so terrified to say anything that getting any information about their whereabouts is practically impossible.
This is how the CCP operates and controls enterprises and the general population.
The CEO of Bytedance knows this and knew it when he took the job.
So now coming to say under oath that Bytedance is not an agent of the CCP, when Chew himself is at the very top of the watch list of the regime is not only perjury but just plain ridiculous.
This looks like splitting, or you're deliberately failing to understand how lawmaking works and the importance of making informed decisions at the federal level, in the long term.
Congress constantly grills CEOs, the elite, and victims because it is understood that they reshape society, sometimes for the worse, not always on purpose.
Is a law needed? How do we tax it? Who is being harmed? What is the harm? Can a law be enforced?
The transparency is by default. Not a "spectacle".
I can remember being in high school, still in the age of minority, and feeling joy when one of the louder, dumber cooks finally kicked off.
I kind of suspect Beijing and the CCP of not being so colorful at the federal level, and rather just being a giant executive bureaucracy with principle, law, and regulation intermixed freely, minimal federation, which leaves them largely ignored by society and festering until they're in your face enforcing lock downs -- like an authoritarian military state.
I unfortunately don't read a lick of Mandarin, and I'm not sure where to get a more optimistic view about what goes on over there, but I'm curious.
The reason you don't know it is because the CEOs of the biggest corporations in the world don't live there, so it doesn't get any media attention.
Who cares about the grilling of the CEO of Royal Mail in the UK?
If you do, here you can watch it
You can't generalize the whole thing as spectacle just because a few of the congressmen choose to grandstand / push an agenda / be generally tonedeaf, I can almost guess that in 6 hours at least some of the concerns are legitimate and merit public discourse even if they are nuanced, possibly quite boring, and have more to do with how OS maintainers and parents should behave.
Everything is in the crosshairs and nothing material is sacred, and it has been that way for as long as I can remember[0]. That's why we hire these people.
Huawei/Xiaomi flagships cost as much as an iPhone.
What is more concerning here is if the US is being out-competed to the point where they have to take legislative action. If they make a habit of that, it means that they are making some deep mistakes in their regulatory structure. The Chinese managed to do something here that the EU, Africa and India didn't manage.
Traditionally (eg, vs the USSR) America went in with a strong corporate and social base that took the expectations off the Fine Minds in Government. If it comes down to US bureaucrats vs Chinese bureaucrats my money is on the Chinese, their government is more internally coherent. The US needs competitive corporations.