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That's cool in the short term, but it will be news when it's sustained. I logged in to Bing for the first time in forever to play with the AI some, but it didn't change my default search behavior of using Google, and now it's been easily two weeks since I went to Bing at all.

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Right, I would be surprised if Bing sees any sustained benefit. The search engine still sucks, and the way they integrated ChatGPT sucks even more. I use Google a lot less these days, but the beneficiary, in my case at least, is not Bing, but chat.openai.com, where I have become a paying customer.

The Bing AI is too crippled. It would be nice to have the option to remove its handcuffs. The chat limit and the constant “I’m sorry but I cannot continue this line of conversation” gets annoying fast. I was also able to get better answers from ChatGpt running on gpt3 than on Bing running on gpt4 for this very reason.

They don't have the stomach for the bad press, which is to say they don't have the stomach to be committed innovators.

I got access a while back, but haven't tried it yet. I don't have a windows machine to run Edge on.

You can use the Bing mobile app as well

FWIW Microsoft has Edge installers for Linux and Mac as well, I am using it on Debian

I'm running Edge on Arch, it works beautifully with wayland

Edge runs on Mac too, with the chat stuff, same as on Windows.

Thankfully changing your user agent is enough

successfully did this too. it's just a webapp, no real need to restrict to Edge except for Microsoft trying to push their products

I'm just using this extension (I assume it just changes the UA): https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bing-unchained-use...

I would 100% use Bing more if they offered a "minimal" or "low bandwidth" mode that cuts out all of the pictures, news, weather, etc. and just takes me to the results.

If you use duckduckgo, you already use Bing results.

I rarely use google, and when I do it's from duckduckgo !g

I would immediately switch to bing by default if such bangs were supported as I sometimes need them for wikipedia !w or amazon !a

If there was a way they could be supported Edge address through a plugin or something, I would immediately switch to bing as that's what I already use 90% of the time (between duckduckgo frontend and requesting bing directly with !b )

> it will be news when it's sustained

The weakness is revealed. Google’s stickiness now has a quantifiable wedge factor. Whether it goes to Microsoft or someone else is more a matter of time.

No matter how many hoops I've jumped through I still can't get access.

Signed in, installed Edge, etc.. It seems like I'm just stuck on the waitlist.

Duck duck go should integrate gpt-4 that could be interesting

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