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> In the 1.20 series, Kubernetes changed its terminology from “master” to “control-plane.” And in 1.24, they removed references to “master,” even from running clusters. This is the cause of our outage. Kubernetes node labels.

Wow, so the word police brought down Reddit. Why on earth did someone think it a good idea to screw with existing names in running clusters in a cluster management tool?

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I'm sure it was worth making breaking changes to make Kubernetes more "inclusive"... whatever that means. As if Kubernetes ever excluded anybody, or "master" referred to slavery in any way.

These terminology changes date back to the George Floyd protests, and instead of getting action to solve the actual problem, we got blog posts from GitHub about changing the default branch name, so they can feel like they're doing something and elevate their brand.

It’s good to see how increasingly fewer people feel.

Iirc this shift was actually much older and started as a pre-gamergate idealogical proxywar. There were even various projects parodying wokeness in tech at the time to comment on it. For example C+= which was a C++ derivative that had more "inclusive" keywords

https://github.com/TheFeministSoftwareFoundation/C-plus-Equa...

The word police seem to have gone kinda quiet lately.

I wonder if they realised that banning a few words wasn't really helping their cause.

Those bullshit positions are the first to go in any kind of recession or downturn, that's the most likely explanation.

Or they don't see the point in arguing with people who are obviously against any sort of progressive or inclusive adjustments to society.

I want a progressive, inclusive society. I want a society that argues and fights for actual change, not just changing word usage. I bristle at the “master vs. main” debate not because I’m racist, but because it distracts from real impactful change. Every second spent arguing over whether “master” has meaning outside a slavery context is a second NOT spent on expanding educational equity or progressive taxation. The people who are benefiting from the status quo want us fighting over the dictionary.

Their main home seemed to be twitter.

I wonder if perhaps twitter's new ownership (and decrease in moderation) has impacted their activities? I wonder if perhaps it was an effort led by twitter employees because that sort of thing leads to greater use of twitter?

Was that BLM/ANTIFA HQ? The building will lose value because of all the woke air inside.

They've had since December 2020 to update their cluster, and the breaking-ness in 1.24 is called out in a section titled 'Urgent Update Notes'[0], and subtitled 'No, really, you MUST read this before you upgrade'.

So by 'word police' you mean 'admins who didn't bother to read the release notes for the last two years and just deployed straight to production while ignoring the release notes'.

Whatever your politics, breaking changes happen. Not reading the release notes and checking to see if anything affects you is just incompetence.

[0] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/CHANGEL...

I laughed out loud when I got to that point. Well deserved.

I started laughing but arent as far from crying as i would ike to.

Ironic.

3 hours, IPO not impacted. People who don’t value inclusion identified. Win-win. Hope you’re enjoying Tucker Carlson (alone, likely) tonight.

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