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I’ve been using Rider in Ubuntu for a year or so, and not really missed VS. Only once when looking into the identity UI templates which required some scaffolding stuff in VS.

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I strongly recommend Rider, even for those using Windows. It's a great piece of software.

Why pay for half of the experience of IDE from the OS vendor, specially when having MSDN licenses already paid for?

What half is Rider missing? And of course you should use VS if you're getting it for free while having to pay for Rider.

I find Rider a much more smooth experience than VS. It's faster in almost every way (loading solutions, searching, etc).

Full stack Windows development, across all Microsoft products and various kinds of Windows SDKs, GPU debugging, hot code reload for .NET and C++, visual tooling for architecture workflows.

Rider does full stack (eg MAUI, Blazor, WPF, Xamarin etc for frontends and can publish to various cloud services) and has hot reload. What Microsoft products and SDKs does Rider not support?

As far as I can tell GPU debugging is C++ only, where I thought we were discussing C#, same with the C++ hot reload. However CLion does both.

SharePoint, Dynamics, SQL Server SP in .NET, Sitecore (not MS but big player in enterprise CMS), 3rd party component libraries for VS designers, WDK, integration with Azure DevOps workflows, two way modeling of code (not on professsional), mixed language debugging, REPL for all languages, graphical tooling for parallel debugging, ETW, DockerDesktop replacement GUI, ...

We where discussing what a Visual Studio full install offers, with a single license.

Rider is great. If you haven't tried VS in a while, VS2022 moved to 64 bit and the performance is much, much better than 2019. There appears to be a lot more coming, many of the preview features focus on making as many interactions as possible asynchronous e.g. loading projects/refactoring operations/Intelliense completions etc.

Modern .Net is pretty focused on web apps. Many of us never need to touch C++, GPU, or the other things you mentioned. I've been using Visual Studio for almost 20 years and IMO Rider is simply a superior C# IDE. It's been my daily driver for going on three years. Of course I keep VS installed because of legacy tools like the WinForms designer that aren't supported in Rider, but that's something I need maybe once a year on average?

I bet WinDev and MAUI teams have other point of view regarding that.

Also, again why pay twice.

Maybe when I start seeing Rider demos done at BUILD.

I’m using it on Xubuntu with Rider as well. I’m using the CLI to scaffold identity including UI.

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