Ah yes, the senate. How could we forget the paragons of truth? They absolutely have no incentives to lie or make hyperbolic claims to support any agendas. They're the epitome of our humble faithful civil servants.
Ah yes, the senate. How could we forget the paragons of truth? They absolutely have no incentives to lie or make hyperbolic claims to support any agendas. They're the epitome of our humble faithful civil servants.
- Konstantin Kilimnik
What kind of investigation doesn’t interview the primary suspects?
How did Mueller not know about Fusion GPS when questioned by Congress?
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu...
The irony of people in this thread not reading primary sources and instead relying on weird "news" reports that nothing was found is a bit much.
Subsequent to the Senate report, has any information corroborated the allegations about Manefort?
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-manafort-witness-mu...
Perhaps the 'shared with Deripaska' part is disputed? But I don't even think that is.. again, what specific corroboration are you looking for?
Is your contention that Trump's campaign manager, who was twice convicted of laundering tens of millions of dollars for a Russian billionaire, and who admitted to providing confidential campaign information to that same billionaire via a cutout, needs to be convicted of some specific crime related to that before we believe all of their admissions?
Read the Mueller report! Or the Senate report! They are very detailed and highlight exactly where they have unanswered questions. None of their questions involve Manafort's behavior or intentions.
The prosecution of Gates and Manafort would not have proceeded had the election swung the other way.
In totality it seems to me the Special Council investigation was a political hatchet job more than anything resembling a pursuit of justice.
For whatever it’s worth, I do not support Trump but feel compelled to note perceived injustices when observed.
This description of "poor Donald Trump" is insane. I'd really, really recommend you actually read the Mueller report. The investigation you are describing is 100% divorced from what they actually found.
It's likely that if they do that deep of an investigation into any campaigns, they'd fine dirt -- but that doesn't excuse the dirt!
If it’s politically motivated, then it is unjust. I take Gates’ and Manafort’s guilty pleas seriously. They both admit to crimes. However, none of these crimes come close to conspiring with Russia to rig an election. That didn’t happen from a legal perspective.
As far as Mueller and his report, it struck me as antithetical to the US system of justice when he inverted the standard of presumed innocence when he said, “if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”
Additionally Mueller did not seem to know about Fusion GPS when he testified before Congress. The special council never interviewed Kilimnick.
One factual note, it seems like one of Manafort’s convictions is from his dealings with Yanukovych, who is Ukrainian, not Russian, although he is currently living in exile in Russia.
No one is saying poor Trump. I’m just saying the special council did not prove a conspiracy to win the White House.
He also stole millions of dollars from the Ukrainian people via a scheme working with Yanukovych that only came to light via the black ledger -- but Manafort had $20 million in personal loans from Deripaska and something like $65M in total debt with him (it's a common way to evade taxes on crimes -- you take a loan and then never repay it so it never shows as income); https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/manafort-had-60m-relation...
Manafort was astonishingly corrupt.
Unless there is a perjury penalty involved, and suddenly there was little to go on.