Google Bard waitlist

If that's the problem then they're not supplying the right fix. Surely restricting this to users located in the US doesn't prevent people from writing in a language that isn't English. Google should be capable of detecting the language of a query, and potentially rejecting it based on that with an apology.

> PR,

Obviously there must be _some_ reason why they're doing this. Doesn't mean it's a good reason.

> scaling, not enough capacity for the new users.

That would be rather embarrassing for Google.

We don't want that. Every time Google launches something it takes months for it to understand that just because I'm currently located in country X does not mean I want localization or personalization for that country. Just release the service for those that can use it without the localization. After all we know that the vast majority of the models are trained on English, it's useless to give me a subpar undertrained model on local language.

Actually, in some cases, there is: exposing your endpoints to nefarious actors from countries where there is no jurisdiction, functioning tech laws, etcetera. It is better & safer to launch small with a somewhat "trusted crowd" first. You live in a dream world or have not launched anything really on your own before. It is wrong & dangerous to follow your advice or criticism because you don't know what you don't know.

Agree, very frustrating.

Not that Google’s account switcher has ever been particularly good.

[0] Not just the console. AWS organizations are sort of okay, but you still need to give every account an email address. Seriously, Amazon? I bet you could invent a new subtype of account called, say, “project”, where a project has a name, does not have an email address, does not have a root non-IAM user, and is only accessed via IAM roles. And I bet you could, with more effort, teach the console to accept a URL prefix that encodes the name of an account and a role and gives a console view with that role assumed without globally assuming that role. And then I could administer a VPC according to current best practices, from the console, without cursing at multi-account containers and needing to correctly type the account and role every time I want to do anything.

When Clubhouse finally opened up to a wider audience of people who weren't being incentivized to use it, new users churned out almost immediately because it wasn't actually very cool at all.

Basically, the story of Clubhouse was the story of Google Glass.

You're talking about maybe ~1% of search that Bing Chat is practically available to (in Europe).

It's a lot less risky for Microsoft to do what they did than for Google to just open the floodgates in Europe.

Better than have the whole product fail because competitors won the market with a global launch.

Which lawyer you get seems to be a sort of dice roll that perhaps one could understand if one were a lawyer.

Not being in the EU doesn't help either.

Google+ was mediocre and not better than the competition. Young people didn't care about it. The exclusivity was generated by a company - it didn't appeal to the user's inherent bias. Facebook initially appealed to narcissism - the early users "knew" they were "better" than myspace users.

What was Google+ appealing to? Being a nerd?

The point is, invite-only isn't inherently counter-productive to hype. But you need to bring the goods.

Of course I agree that this is high-risk in that their location thingy is unstable and trigger happy enough as is, and good luck reaching a human if some system does decide to block you.

Or as the old saying goes, “if a google product is felled in a forest, and there’s no users to notice, did google really fail?”

In pg’s seminal essay “On Complaining”, he identifies five levels of venting from simple criticism to full on meltdowns.

Similarly, it is increasingly common to get two Spanish tracks… one for “Latin American” Spanish (which is what you almost certainly learned if you took Spanish in school) and European (aka Iberian or Castilian) Spanish.

One of the most obvious is that ce/ci, and some z’s are pronounced “th” and not “s”. So a Spaniard would say “cinco” as something like “thinko”.

This why it’s “wor-es” (Juarez) Mexico, but “her-eth” (Jerez) Spain.

Is that hyperbole? Because that would be very sad if true, culturally speaking. There are 5 different official languages in my country (Spain) and there are several laws to prevent them from becoming extinct for this very reason.

Microsoft could completely kill Bing in the EU with very little effect to their bottom line.

But you do bring up a good point. Why be so conservative if Bard isn't even tied in with Google search?

My only guess is Google turning into a global whipping boy for fines has made them trigger shy.

Look, the problem here is that internet providers are trying to follow the law ("avoid fines" if you prefer the cynical framing). The law is different in EU countries than it is in the USA, in some very important ways. And they need to be seen making a good faith effort to enforce those laws. A six month grace period for an account "primarily used" in one regime seems not terribly unreasonable to me.

But that's not what your original comment was asking for anyway. You wanted to be sitting in Barcelona or wherever and e.g. not be subject to the GDPR and EU-specific data retention requirements (which is presumably the issue here: Bard likely isn't yet compliant being probably all hosted in the USA).

Wealth taxes are a thing too, e.g., in Switzerland.

If you're thinking of Project Maven, that ended in 2019, so I would use past tense.

> were part of PRISM

As I understand it, the NSA was snooping on Google's internal traffic between services. Google was not complicit, at least there's no evidence of that.

Here it is just a site with nothing related to region.