JPMorgan advising First Republic on alternatives, including a capital raise
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This is why we need to stay very very strong on the "no help for shareholders" policy when banks fail. The potential for moral hazard is extreme otherwise.
See SVB's stock price in the last few years. The signal is clear to banking execs: take on risk, show growth metrics, and the stock market will reward you.
If your salary is tied to stock price, and whatever risky behavior you adopt won't show up for years, you have no real incentive to play nice.
Banking execs are not going to stick around at the same bank forever. Do a 3 year tenure, pump up the stock, get paid, and gtfo with someone else left holding the bag.
Now with that knowledge there is little incentive for banks to play it safe and a bailout every couple of years is to the benefit of everyone except the taxpayer and a few unlucky scapegoats.
Of course this is not sustainable either and maybe this time or next time what we learned 2008 will prove untrue...
By which you mean the shareholders and lenders. Out of all possible evils, this is probably the best.
Some did, most didn’t. That was the gripe. That’s why we’re doing it differently this time.
Something I did not realize until recently, which I think is very important here, is that the FDIC is not funded by taxpayers. It is funded by fees levied against the banks themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corp...
Its the same failure mode regardless if played via everyone paying taxes or everyone paying FDIC, privatize the gains and socialize the losses until collapse.
But if everyone is paying FDIC via fees levied against private banks, then the POTUS and Yellen and everyone else can release a statement saying "no taxpayer funds will be used to bail out SVB". That way everyone can breathe an ironic sigh of relief: "Oh good, I was worried I was going to have to foot the tax bill for that. It's bad enough I have to pay all these greedy capitalists at my local bank a new fee every other week, at least the government is looking out for the little guy!"
I'm sure that's not passed onto the customers at all.
Except SVB and signature shareholders lost all their money and most of the employees will be fired...
Imagine that the Fed guarantee for SVB had been put forward two weeks before it was. Would SVB shareholders and managers had received the same level of consequences? Any consequences at all? I am not sure of how big the difference would have been, but I would be surprised if it wasn't significant.
The fed guarantee is only for banks that are solvent. Banks that are insolvent have been put in receivership. In fact, the fed didn't guarantee SVB anything, they guaranteed that deposits at National Bank of Santa Clara, the successor to SVB, are safe.
On the other hand effective control of the media (including the web) is much tighter now compared to the late 2000s - early 2010s, I personally cannot see a Occupy Wall Street-like movement happening again in the States.
Selling begets fear which begets selling, which can also make it harder for poorly capitalized banks to raise money via equity/bonds. Self fulfilling in a way. Moving quickly can short-circuit this cycle.
Unfortunately the ability to predict this situation was lacking. Apparently the Fed was monitoring SIVB for a year before this happened, but why they didn't force asset sales or equity issuance is beyond me. The fact that the bank stress test only looked at credit quality issues and not duration risk was surprising to me. These issues would have been quite obvious months ago if the HTM system that allowed pegging asset values at par instead of market values didn't exist.
I think it's conceivable that things stabilize beyond this week. Lots of scary headlines, but the fundamentals of the economy are still strong... for now.
One of the lessons learned from 2008, especially after the collapse of Lehman, is that acting too late or sending mixed messages can make the problem worse.
The SVB run started on a Thursday, and the government announced a plan to stabilize the banking system the next Sunday before the markets were about to open. It was a pretty fast reaction all things considered.
What we didn't learn well enough from 2008 was the extent to which small bank failures can create systemic risk for the entire system. It's not like SVB was the only bank with long-term investments that lost market value after rates rose. When people realized that, they freaked out.
The other thing people realized too late was that we have had a two-layer system of deposit insurance since 2008: the too-big-to-fail banks effectively have infinite insurance (because they can't fail) and smaller banks didn't. That creates an incentive for depositors to run on the small banks and move all their money to the ones that cannot fail. It seems like nobody understood that until a few weeks ago, including the regulators.
Another problem, which is older than 2008 but needs to be fixed, is that our current system of deposit insurance doesn't make sense for the way businesses use banks. If it did, we wouldn't be in a situation where only 60% of deposits are insured nationwide. That blunts the effectiveness of deposit insurance for preventing bank runs. The solution may not be more insurance, but perhaps caps on account balances or limits to the percent of uninsured deposits at a given bank.
its the same bank they were two weeks ago, but with a $30 bln buffer
why do anything?
so what, the stock collapsed...if the business is still basically sound (and I have yet to see material evidence to the contrary), then it will move back up
maybe there is evidence not brought to light...but otherwise, we're talking about a mid-size bank on good terms with regulators that has a P/E under 2 (!!!)
this almost feels manipulated to the downside...
and please don't respond with "bank run blah blah" every bank in the world is subject to that risk
FRB seems actually better off in that its depositors don't need to empty their accounts to pay off the lease on a used minivan
If First Republic bleeds depositors (especially HNW depositors where they're concentrated) then it is going to go out of business. It doesn't matter if the bank run is "justified" or not -- the perception of fear is enough to scare depositors away, which would make it a self fulfilling prophecy.
That said, there are good fundamental reasons to be bullish, which is why (full disclosure) I am still long $FRC. But I'm feeling increasingly unhappy about it.
Based on the news from the last several weeks, it's clear that the uninsured deposits have fled First Republic. The hole is being plugged temporarily by the consortium of banks but that will only be temporary. The next disclosure date will make it clear that FRC is not worth anything close to what it was previously.
Buying the common stock is a huge bet that First Republic can bounce back to what it was prior to this crisis, but that's looking extremely unlikely.
their customers are high-net-worth so this would basically means almost all customers have left FRB, which is obviously not the case
at this point the stock is so cheap you don't even need it to get back to previous levels to make a killing...even if it ends up at a 50% discount from its peak, thats 4x from the current price...which gives you an indication of how irrational the panic selling has become
#1 on Peter Lynch's list of mistakes an invester can make : "It can't go any lower." Any stock - including stocks of high-flying blue-chips - can go to zero.
https://www.flowbank.com/en/research/10-sayings-that-will-pu...
List a stock whose trade price was $0.00, I'll wait
For example, in the 2009 chapter 11 bankruptcy of GM [1], the assets of "old GM" (the one publicly traded on the NYSE) were sold to NGMCO ("New GM Corporation"), owned by the creditors of GM. Old GM continued to trade on the pink sheets as GMGMQ, and then was renamed MTLQQ ("Motors Liquidation Company") and then MTLQU ("Motors Liquidation Company General Unsecured Creditors Trust") [2]. New GM went public again in 2010 after emerging from bankruptcy protection, which is why if you look up "GM" on Yahoo Finance its history only goes back to 2010.
You can still trade MTLQU on the pink sheets [3], but its market cap is about $10M and it makes no profit - it's basically just a trust to settle litigation. If you held old GM stock going into bankruptcy in 2009 you were basically wiped out. The new company is owned by the creditors (which is kind of the point of bankrupty).
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Chapter_11_reor...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motors_Liquidation_Company
Why not? If they do bounce back, I don't think that in ~10 years from now people will still think of them as being any worse than any other bank.
FWIW, banks are priced on Book Value (that's literally what the stock in a bank represents, whether it's public or private - banks aren't like normal operating companies), since earnings are volatile and dependent on outside factors. FRB's book value is anyone's guess ATM, but it's probably quickly becoming negative given the bank run blah blah
Also, for companies that are priced on earnings, they're priced on forward earnings, which is assumed to be extremely negative for FRC.
Bank equity is weird because it directly feeds into the funding cost for the bank’s massively-levered balance sheet. That said, I agree something is off here. First Republic (and Credit Suisse) may be (and have been) better off as private companies.
See: https://www.wsj.com/articles/jpmorgan-morgan-stanley-and-oth...
It's a liquidity infusion. A lot of times the big banks don't want more small depositors anyways.
Large banks have different portfolios and may have funds available to assign to these (now riskier) investments.