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9000 jobs at one company is quite small compared to the overall industry and compared to the global shortfall in tech jobs. In Germany alone there's a 780k tech worker shortage over the next 3 years[1]. It ebbs and flows in particular companies and particular regions, but the trend is still upward globally.

[1] https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-digital/our-i...

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If you want to get paid $40/h then there are many jobs in Germany. If you want to get paid $150/h, there are almost none.

Is 84k a bad salary? I like money, the more, the better, but I can live comfortably with that amount of money.

Imagine rent around 1000-1500 EUR, 42% taxes and inflation making basic food prices and energy go up 100-200% and you suddenly live paycheck to paycheck with no social life and no ability to own home. It's much better to live in e.g. Dubai/Romania (0% tax) or Poland (low tax) and work remotely for German companies as a consultant than to move to Germany.

why would any IT immigrant want to work in Germany for peanuts pay and high taxes, if they can get higher pay in Switzerland/UK/USA ?

Better health care. Less Trump and Trump-adjacent. Lower chance of having your kids shot at school. An actual culture instead of whatever capitalism wants to shove down your throat. Unions that work. Way better transportation in big cities. Soccer teams that people care about. A few trainrides away from a holiday in Greece or Croatia (or France, or Norway, et al).

Wait until you move to Germany and hear about Osterreich (former east germany communists) - a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do. There are like hundreds of thousands of ex-USSR emigres who still love russia and support it.

regarding the rest - with german pay you wont have money to travel across Europe. your best bet will be "backbacker" style travel on budget - which is hard to do with kids.

and dont get me at the quality of their daycares....

>a lot of them are heavy supporters of Putin and russia in general and hate immigrants just like trumpers do.

Unlike in the USA, these people in Germany don't get their insane voices boosted by the ballot box equivalent of Affirmative Action (aka the Senate and Electoral College). Their views have remained far from the PM's office.

Do you maybe mistake Österreich (Austria) for Ostdeutschland (Eastern Germany)?

And Germans have plenty of money (and vacation days) to travel across Europe, in fact you will encounter them pretty much everywhere.

The quality of care in German daycare centers is still not great despite recent improvements, I'll give you that.

Well, if they get job at these better places, its great. For others(and there will be a lot), it may not be bad option.

Because Germany has good living standards in many cities and salary is not as bad as you indicate.

I would consider moving to Germany before considering the UK. I certainly wouldn't ever move to the US.

The only place you mentioned I would rank above Germany is Switzerland.

How does an American find a job in Germany willing to hire them? I'd jump at the opportunity.

yeah but that's Germany

You can remotely work for a German company tho.

They even will accept english if you're a good developer as lingua franca instead of german. YMMV

With a CS or engineering degree, it's also very easy to immigrate to Germany on a blue card, with a relative short path to permanent residency and citizenship.

There is no actual shortage of tech workers in Germany or any other capitalist country. It's just that some employers don't want to pay the market rate or provide training.

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