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Comment by jhfdbkofdchk | Hacker News Reader

It’s fine except for the Settings app.

Even the Settings app is OK with me... speaking as a Mac user (almost) continuously since the original Mac Plus (although I use Linux for servers):

I really just couldn't care less about the change in the settings app. I usually typed something into the Spotlight search area to find what I wanted in the old version, and I do the same thing now. I just didn't have to change settings enough to have remembered their old locations.

I can’t stand search in the settings app. The results are in decipherable to me. It seems like I get 15 results that have almost identical text and have to click through them to figure out which was the right one.

Part of this extends from how Apple is implementing security. There are at Lear half a dozen security and accessibility options that all hide similar app lists.

As a frequent iPad user, I love the new settings app in Ventura.

I can see though why long time Mac users would hate it though, it’s a massive change and it moved everything.

Do you think it's an improvement over the old one? Why?

I do just for consistency within the overall Apple ecosystem.

I think it is. The organization isn't quite right, and definitely needs to be worked on, but I like the sidebar approach.

For a user with the whole ecosystem, it is far more consistent with iPhone and iPad. From that angle it is so much better it is silly.

Having to type by poking away at an onscreen keyboard would be consistent too but we can all agree that it would suck.

The old Settings UI was nice, but it had a really bad scaling problem as more preferences were added, making it badly organized. I like the new one, better, though it did come into the world roughly and still needs work.

Mostly, though, I'm just happy that they're dog-fooding SwiftUI with it. I look forward to WWDC this year.

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