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Elon Musk Knocked Tesla’s ‘Full Self-Driving’ Off Course

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I mean this is just a classic WaPo hit piece. The main thing that debunks it though, IMO, is the fact that there haven't really been any other successful self driving programs elsewhere. It isn't really that salient to attack Musk for his company's failings at FSD when literally no other company on Earth has succeeded at delivering FSD.

It's easy to focus on the blunders Tesla has made on FSD. It's late, it's not done, it's not level 5 (and it might never be), the naming and marketing implied level 5 capability, it's expensive, and the CEO lied about its roadmap for years. All of that is 100% true.

As bad as all that is, if you can manage to put all that aside it's 100% true that there is no other competing system in customers' hands like it.

The most recent beta build is impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTGy2SKURM

Should you outfit your new Tesla with the FSD upgrade for $15,000? Hell to the no. At the same time, people who are early adopters who paid to get FSD and got on the beta program are getting a product that nobody else is offering.

With good reason? Tesla doesnt seem to give a shit about the safety concerns of other people on the road, and a half-assed "full self driving" system that requires careful monitoring is never going to work. People tune things out if they don't need to actively do something.

This is like saying no other countries are handing out briefcase nukes.

Most aspiring producers of FSD recognize the danger and realize they don't want to live in a world where their neighbors are made unwilling test dummies.

The sort of idealist version of product development where automotive products came out without safety problems didn't happen with any other automotive technology. Early airbags were unsafe, early ABS was crap, drum brakes couldn't stop your car very well, there used to be no such thing as a crumple zone, and the list goes on and on.

I'd rather be on the road next to someone using a self-driving mode than someone driving drunk.

Waymo has FSD. Oh it only works in places they are certain it will work? Nevermind, I like my companies to unleash products that don't work, but everywhere

Tesla has been disingenuous in its marketing of FSD. FSD is not full self driving. It's barely self driving at all. New Ford, bmw, and Subaru cars have equivalent self driving capabilities to Tesla.

Tesla cannot make a turn at an intersection. That is not FSD.

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