Why Barney Frank went to work for Signature Bank
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“Let me put it this way. As a congressman, you passed the biggest financial regulation in a generation. Then you went to work on the board of directors of a bank … I just wonder if going on bank boards and saying that you’re doing it in part because you want to make money is helpful. That’s all.”
“Former members of Congress should not go to work on anything related to what they may have done while they were in Congress? Could I have become an official of a gay-rights organization? I spent more of my time during my years on gay rights than on financial reform. What about housing? I created programs to support affordable housing. I continue to try to work with that. Is that wrong?”
“I think that’s a good place to end it.”
“No, I want an answer to the question.”
“I don’t know enough about the housing sector. I was making—”
“You don’t know that much about banking, either. … If I ruled as off-limits anything I’d worked on when I was in Congress, I guess I’d be a monk.“
Absolutely brutal. Never thought I’d want to buy a banker a beer but this Barney guy is alright.
If you're trying to say that regulators should be able to go and work for the people they were regulating, that shows a significant lack of understanding about how corruption has worked in actuality.
The reason many countries have blackout periods where regulators are forbidden from receiving any kind of funding from the people they were regulating afterwards is because when its allowed, corruption occurs, and the cost to prosecute it is almost always high. The more centralized and heavily regulated the area is, the more prevalent it is, and worse the enforcement arm becomes less effective at a general cost to the public (look at the SEC).
There are a number of legal ways that bribes and payoffs may happen without blackout periods (i.e. where they can't accept a position with any company doing business in areas they oversaw), and while a number of these loopholes have been closed, there are still many avenues where sophisticated bad actors can easily get around law intended to punish corruptive behavior such as with blind trusts set up for education, where there is only one beneficiary but its set up as a lottery.
Corruption should be rooted out, and heavily punished because it causes harm to the public good, its insidious and pernicious in regulated areas.
Certain readers would takeaway that he deflected where a person of integrity and good faith would use the opportunity to steelman and address the core conflict of interest criticism put forth.
For example, if a cop pulls you over for a traffic violation, would you rather have the chief of police among your "good friends", or the lawmaker who passed whatever traffic law you violated?
If I get pulled over by a cop for a traffic violation, it means my attempts at major corruption have already failed. The minor corruption of having the chief of police fix my ticket is small potatoes by comparison.
If I want to buy laws and regulations that favor me over my competitors, which is a much more serious form of corruption (and the form that large organizations like banks are much more likely to engage in), I want to buy the lawmaker, not the regulator, because the lawmaker will give me much better value for my money.
“I came to the conclusion shortly after we passed the bill that fifty billion dollars was too low. I decided that by 2012, and, in fact, said it publicly. The reason I say that is that I didn’t go on the board of Signature until later. In fact, I had never heard of Signature Bank at the time when I began to advocate raising the limit. This is relevant, obviously, because Signature was a beneficiary of that.”
The fact he had such an answer prepared shows he has thought about it over the years, far longer than the reporter spent thinking about a gotcha question based on the superficial premise of "revolving door bad."
As for the reporter, the interview doesn't start any better than it ends. Those are some embarrassing questions based on factually incorrect premises, and Frank consistently corrects him, only to be told "well, look what the Washington Post said in 2018!" How embarrassing. I admire Frank's patience. Can you imagine a reporter childishly grilling you about your subject of expertise while insisting you're wrong?
No, these are totally different things. Congress does not "regulate" gay rights organizations and affordable housing charities, and you presumably are not being paid to do these things. If you are, then obviously stop that. If you feel strongly about the cause, do it for free. On the other hand, Congress (and you personally) does (did) regulate Signature Bank heavily and have (had) lots of opportunities to shape public policy to benefit /specifically the officers and shareholders of this bank, which also employs you/. The suggestion that these things are equivalent is obviously an argument in bad faith.
The interviewer may have expected that fact to be self-evident to his readers, and that Barney Frank's unwillingness to engage with it, and to try to deflect in order to "win the argument," would speak for itself.
(Unimportant nitpick: one option being more morally complicated and more dangerous than the others is a quantitative difference, not a qualitative difference.)
It simply doesnt fit the narrative outside that we re helping drug cartels or shits like that.
The big salaries you hear about aren't there because banks are greedy; they're there because bank shareholders know that banking is hard, and you need to make sure you can command the best person for the job. It doesn't always work out, but that's the goal. Shareholders don't give up dividends for fun, in any industry.
If you don't take risk, you lose market share (and really, risk is where liquidity originates from -- it's the whole reason we have banks; otherwise, we'd all just wait until we have enough cash to buy what we want). Too much risk, and you blow up. Which would be all fine and good, except not enough and too much aren't ever clearly delineated until after the fact.
Barney's great at bickering and obscuring the point.
“You passed the biggest financial regulation in a generation. Then you went to work on the board of directors of a bank, and then after that you supported weakening certain requirements.”
“No, no. Wrong. Wrong on sequence. I supported [weakening certain requirements] before I even heard of the bank. I decided that there was one area where we had been mistaken and began advocating, correcting this. … The events are that I made an independent decision, without regard to being on a bank board, that I had made a mistake. When I went on a bank board, I should stop believing the conclusion I had come to?”
Also from the article and already reproduced in a sibling comment is the first statement Barney made in the interview, to the effect that he is on public record pushing for these weakenings in 2012, long before he joined (or was even aware of the existence of) Signature Bank.
The power held through working in a government clearly doesn't justify their documented benefits. So, we do hope these individuals to possess monk like qualities with a self sacrificial mindset.
Even though their argument for working in social and civil reform institutes does sound reasonable at first, but I think it is controversial.
I think fundamentally progressive ideas does not win through democratic process. They are disruptive ideas that represent a minority of people. Through an incredible movement these reforms gain democratic edge. But politicians are elected to democratic process and presently compared, they often aren't the ideal persons to led a progressive movement, they have too much skin in the game and can hold back free flowing progressive and disruptive ideas.
Likewise when Frank argues in favor of his working for the banking industry, this raises conflicts of interests for legislators and potential for undue and hard-to-detect influence in a way that e.g. taking an academic position concerning banking or lobbying for gay rights would not.
That being said, Barney Frank’s rationale of wanting to make money is pretty openly terrible, he doesn’t come of great either
Non competes don’t usually go down very well in these parts, so expecting someone to voluntarily step away from their area of expertise is a big ask.
Having made the mistake to have been an elected official in the past should not ban you from high responsibility jobs, maybe ?
I like what I do; I like my colleagues; I’m proud of what our teams have accomplished, but I’m very clear that I work for money.
In practice, yeah, it probably never happens.
Being a regulator and a manager of a profitable enterprise have very few things in common.
You don’t want your audit and compliance department calling the shots for a corporation.
Just like the last thing you need is a CEO whether sales or engineer type making all of the risk, audit and compliance decisions.
"Any buyer of Signature must agree to give up all the crypto business at the bank"
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-regulator-taps-p...
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/signature-bank-faced-crim...
Given that the legislation in question was bipartisan, what point are you making?
>Senators had assembled a rare bipartisan coalition to pass the bill by winning support from 17 Democrats
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/divided-hous...
(It should be obvious that banks do not do strictly beneficent things.)
If everyone did the right thing on their own then we wouldn't need laws to prevent wage theft, or false advertising, or people dumping toxic chemicals in rivers people might drink out of, or murder.
> Problems with the bill, Frank said, include the amount at which a bank is considered risky and subject to harsher oversight. The new bill increases the threshold five times, from $50 billion to $250 billion.
> “Fifty [billion dollars] was wrong,” Frank said. “It was too low. … But I think above 125 [billion dollars] was a mistake.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/bill-to-rewrite-dodd-frank-b...
I find it hilarious when the executive branch (of either team red or team blue) gets blamed for faults which plainly and obviously stem from the legislative branch.
I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but we've now seen SBF, Donald Trump, and other major figures admit to crimes to journalists (and sometimes on TV).
Regardless, I think you have to investigate from every angle, including asking someone who is likely to lie to you at the advice of their lawyer.
The thing is that both SVB and Signature were these large commercial banks that didn't really do many commercial loans, they just bought bonds. That's more or less going to doom you to die sooner or later 'cause your estimate of the future value of a money isn't always going to be better than average. So regulators should have said something a while back, yeah. Why they didn't or couldn't is the question.
> One: it paid well. I don’t have a pension and, having quit, I wanted to make some money.
Unfortunately, the revolving door very rarely goes wrong...
Its supposed to just show some slight signs of quid pro quo and thats it