The ID.2all concept is an electric VW $25.000
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22k pounds for 450km of range, impressive exterior and even better interior with an amazingly looking center console screen and hud.
If this concept turns into reality, it's gonna be almost a better (or actually better, depending on your preferences) car than the model y standard range for half the price!
Not throwing shade on the ID.2 though ! it looks great (apart from the weird shaped steering wheel and massive touchscreen). And typical hatchback cargo space for this price and range is great.
This is magical thinking. Kudos to Volkswagen PR folks what can I say, mission accomplished.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Nils (2011)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk7#e-Golf (2013)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_ID._Buzz (2017)
Are you new to car concept PR shenanigans?
The limiting factor is batteries and being able to produce these things at scale. What Tesla is doing with its gigafactories and approach to batteries is something all the legacy car companies need to be doing and they need to get on that yesterday.
2024/5 is around the time Tesla will have a new range of cars and price drops and I can say this not because of blind optimism in Elon but because the physics and economics are starting to line up to enable that.
For an in-depth analysis take a look at Munro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fe548XvavY
tl;dr - the right way to build electric cars:
In-house electronics. In-house batteries. In-house motors. 48v wiring. Gigacastings. Gigafactories. Vertical integration.
VW, Toyota, 'etc all have engineers screaming for over a decade about all these things but other than PR fluff they are just not allowed to tackle the problem. Weird, but here we are.
https://electrek.co/2023/03/14/vw-doubles-down-ev-strategy-w...
Yes and: Software stack.
(Sandy) Munro has mentioned this a few times.
I struggle to imagine other vehicle mfgs successfully making their own software.
My prediction is that one or more mfgs will adopt Apple's stack. Either thru partnership or licensing. Apple has cash to burn, so I think partnership, eg with Stellantis.
Then they'd also get access to Apple's chips.
As you surely know, legacy cars have dozens of electronic control units (ECUs), whereas Tesla has just a few chips/boards. Those ECUs use bespoke chips. And their supply was recently disrupted. Huge bummer.
Two birds, one stone.
Heh, no. Apple has absolutely no interest in becoming a tier 3 OEM supplier in the car industry and don't make those sort of chips to begin with. They are happy to cement their ecosystem by helping car makers integrate it into the infotainment screens but that is a far cry from what Tesla is doing.
A distinction without a difference.
Intel & NVIDIA are considered Tier 2. QNX-Blackberry sells to both OEMs and Tier 1.
Rebutting my speculation by suggesting Apple would be a lowly Tier 3. While they're already Tier 1 and seriously considering being an OEM.
You're funny.
They can't fix their auto wipers. Phantom braking is still a thing. FSD is a scam.
(I don't have a dog in this fight.)
I know, I know, automakers would much rather sell full-size pickups and three-row crossovers than make a 5-seater that actually seats 5 in reasonable comfort.
When manufacturers call their cars 5-seaters but they're not really meant to regularly carry 5 people, buyers lose trust in that designation. And then buy bigger vehicles to compensate.
This is great for the automaker, but not for you, your safety, or the planet.
I only want a 4-seater, I don't need a full 5-seater. Manufacturers can add emergency seat to 4-seater at minimal cost. What's the problem for me and the planet? I'm saying that I want a small (efficient) cars.
Expected in 2025, interesting they announce the price so far ahead, especially given the current inflation level.
Suposadly it's "too small".
They lost me at the weird shaped steering wheel and massive touchscreen.