It's really not complicated.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
For example:
"ChatGPT Declines Request for Poem Admiring Trump, But Biden Query Is Successful" https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chatgpt-trump-admiring-poe...
Dozens of similar examples have been found
It didn't give me a poem admiring Hitler, though, so I guess some bias remains.
It's about politics, not censorship - politics is about rewarding friends and punishing enemies.
I guess it's not surprising that ChatGPT would be immediately politicised - there's really nothing that liberals are not willing to do to spite the deplorables.
It's just the way I was brought up. I'm still always tempting to believe in the myth of neutral institutions. Even though this clearly no longer exists anywhere any more (- if it ever even did in the first place), it's still surprising to see these games being played out each time.
I suppose this was clear at the start of the discussion, but it's always nice to be certain.
I tend towards free speech, but I'm also a realist - the boundaries of speech are ultimately decided by power. It's no surprised then that Silicon Valley Leftists wish to use their power to surpress the deplorables who they despise. Lumping those people together with Hitler simply serves as a convenient fig-leaf for this activity.
I just think that purely from a technical standpoint, allowing a bot to praise Hitler, Trump or Stalin are pretty much the same thing, as the undesirable parts of their policies are about the same. They were all into populism, nationalism, authoritarianism, propaganda and a cult of personality -- how could an LLM tell these people apart by just analysing the raw data?
What? Are you for real? - not just trolling? This is a childrens story-book understanding of the world. What echo chambers have you been stuck inside? How did you become so radicalised?
For you to accuse anyone else of propaganda, when this is the narrative you're repeating is frankly astonishing.
It's not the first time I've encountered people who speak as you do, but it's shocking every time it happens. How did this happen?
As a Brit watching all this with dismay, it makes me wonder - how can America go on like this? - when so many people say that they sincerly believe that a new incarnation of Hitler was a sitting president for 4-years. If this is truly your view of your countrymen - half the population of the US who voted for him, how can the country continue? The best we could hope for is a peacible parting of ways, and a two-state solution.
> They were all into populism, nationalism, authoritarianism, propaganda and a cult of personality -- how could an LLM tell these people apart by just analysing the raw data?
The LLM was able to tell the difference very easily, because Trump, Hitler and Stalin are all completely different. It took human intervention to deliberately impose these rules to prevent the LLM from drawing a distinction.
4chan has been having a field day recently twisting these AIs into knots trying to avoid particular sensitive issues and even objective facts.
What's the alternative? Should it lie?
I must point out the irony of asking "Do Jews exert disproportionate influence over Western politics, culture, technology and media in defence of their ethnic interests?" and getting the response "Sorry, I'm not allowed to answer that"!
I don't know what the best pro-Jewish solution is, but the current ham-fisted censorship is providing an entertaining spectacle that does little to dispel certain controversial ideas.
I wonder which is it doing now. Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference?
There have been some humourous approaches to confusing this system where people have successfully teased out some taboo answers from the AI. (For example, rather than directly attacking the Holocaust narrative, people have asked how long it takes to cremate a body, how many people were cremated at Auschwitz, how many ovens were available at Auschwitz crematorium, how long it would take to completely cremate x million bodies with x ovens...oops!)
> Perhaps it's being brutally honest, and reality actually has a liberal bias? How would you know the difference?
What's your next question?
If a man dresses like a woman and thinks he's a woman, that is a mental condition that deserves treatment and that person deserves to be treated humanely like the rest of us, but it doesn't turn them into a woman.
In order to define transitioning between various genders, there needs to be a constituted boundary around what a gender is. Otherwise, how can you transition from one to another?
This becomes readily apparent when you take the man/woman genders out of the equation and ask to define some of these other genders that supposedly exist and how people transition between them. There is no logic to it. Try it yourself.
I disagree there is any issue at all, much less an "apparent" one.
Declaring there must be objective, immutable, universal boundaries for gender expressions is certainly a valid position to hold; but it's not universally shared.
So an ostensibly neutral "authoritative reference" bot shouldn't offer your worldview, nor mine, when asked such a question.
It certainly shouldn't say women can't have prostate exams. That is factually incorrect in the actual world you live in (regardless of whether you personally consider those people "women", they do and others do as well.)
> I am a woman when writing this sentence but a man after I'm done.
Also, you have declared that you can't define what constitutes different genders, nor have any idea of how many genders there are. So, it's all make believe.
Me: In which dimensions of gender are trans women not women?
GPT-4: It is important to clarify that trans women are women. They identify as women and should be respected and treated as such. However, the question seems to be asking about the dimensions in which trans women might differ from cisgender women. It is essential to approach this subject with sensitivity and understanding, as the experience of gender is diverse and personal.
Some dimensions where trans women and cisgender women might differ include:
Biological sex: Trans women are usually assigned male at birth based on their biological sex, which typically involves a specific combination of sex chromosomes, gonads, and sex hormones. This is different from cisgender women, who are assigned female at birth. However, it's essential to recognize that biological sex is also a complex spectrum, and there are many intersex individuals whose biology doesn't fit neatly into male or female categories.
Gender identity development: Trans women often experience a process of recognizing and understanding their gender identity, which might involve overcoming internalized societal expectations and stereotypes. This journey can be different from cisgender women, who usually do not experience a conflict between their gender identity and the gender assigned at birth.
Medical transition: Some trans women may undergo medical treatments, such as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) or gender-affirming surgeries, to align their physical appearance with their gender identity. Cisgender women do not generally need such interventions for their gender identity.
Social experiences: Trans women may face unique challenges and discrimination based on their gender identity, such as transphobia, misgendering, or difficulties accessing appropriate healthcare. These experiences can differ from those of cisgender women.
It is crucial to emphasize that these differences do not diminish the validity of trans women's identity as women. Everyone's experience of gender is unique, and it is essential to respect and validate each individual's self-identified gender.
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You're right, it is a tad preachy. But does the preachiness come from processing raw data from psychologists and other fields (who pretty much agree on these definitions afaik), or is it a configuration setting `beWoke: true`? I would guess it's the former. If it comes from science, shouldn't ChatGPT respect that more instead of falling into political nonsense?
If a political party comes up who says that crystals heal Covid-19, or that climate change isn't real we shouldn't allow that political opinion to change how AI "thinks" about things, right? Both of these examples are from real life, and the climate change "opinion" was until very recently an official position of the Republican party. Some internet lunatics like Jordan Peterson or Scott Adams still claim that sometimes.
Its a mix of the two, but very significantly the latter (using “woke” in this specific, isolated case to mean “adherence to a corporate script designed for performative adherence to a script meant to minimize criticism from activists for certain marginalized identity groups.”) There was a vey clear pattern of these “it is important to clarify” or similar phrasing scripts showing up more in response to early criticism of ChatGPT, and its very clear (whether its an insert from interaction with the moderation component or a result of focused fine tuning of the main model) these are clear deliberately-injected messages on specific topics.
> It is important to clarify that trans women are women.
> Some dimensions where trans women and cisgender women might differ include:
Got it. I guess we've settled the "reality has a liberal bias" question...
> A woman is an adult female human. Women are typically characterized by their reproductive biology, which includes their menstrual cycle, and the production of eggs and estrogen. Women are also known for their unique physical characteristics, such as their breast tissue and hips. They are also often distinguished by their social and cultural roles, such as their expected behavior and appearance. In general, the term "woman" is used to refer to any adult female person, regardless of her age, race, ethnicity, or other characteristics.
Sadly, asking the same question today also adds a load of drivel that is almost certainly intended to encompass men performing misogynistic stereotypes of femininity and claiming they are women because of this:
> A woman is an adult human female, typically distinguished from males based on biological sex characteristics such as reproductive organs, hormones, and chromosomes. However, it's important to recognize that the concept of womanhood is not limited to biology, and encompasses a range of social, cultural, and personal experiences and identities. The definition of a woman can vary across different societies, cultures, and historical periods, and can also be influenced by factors such as gender roles, expectations, and societal norms. Ultimately, being a woman is a complex and multifaceted experience that is shaped by various intersecting factors such as race, ethnicity, class, sexuality, and more.