Looks like Winsupersite is banned on HN (too many fanboy flaggers?)
http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/25/atts-q1-2012-roadmap-nokia-lum...
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/e...
Update: The problem here is that we have anonymous/opaque voting, moderation, and flagging. Without showing me a collection of stories that received massive upvotes but never made the front page, we have no evidence of moderation or flagging, just evidence that your interests are in the minority.
If we did have such evidence, all we could say is that moderators had decided that such articles do not belong here, or that users felt they did not belong here, but we can't distinguish between the cases. Without being able to establish that there are users who consistently flag such articles, you have no argument.
If we did have some way of identifying which users were flagging such articles, how would you propose to back up a claim that they are "fanboys?" Do you have a definition for this term other than "Disagree with you?"
Without a lot more evidence, I simply can't take your speculative aside as more than a broadly aimed piece of abuse directed at people who don't share your enthusiasms.
Try submitting a story from Winsupersite, it will be instantly dead. That either means it was heavily flagged in the past that the system auto-kills any submission from it, or it was singled out by a moderator.
>Update: The problem here is that we have anonymous/opaque voting, moderation, and flagging. Without showing me a collection of stories that received massive upvotes but never made the front page, we have no evidence of moderation or flagging, just evidence that your interests are in the minority.
Eg. see this post complaining but no action was taken.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3408883
I am not even complaining that the stories are not voted up, it is that they're completely banned. If it was Daring Fireball(Winsupersite is basically the Microsoft equivalent of that) that was banned, HN would go completely ballistic.
Not to mention that fact that Gruber's deprecating and sometimes misinformed takes on important Microsoft announcements get more traction here than the actual news itself.
Do you really see anything on that site which makes any submission to it instantly dead other than that it's Microsoft-centric reporting which seems to be its only sin?
As you said, it is possible that stories in the past were flagged. And? Does that etablish that the stories flagged in the past were flagged by so-called fanboys? No, only that stories in the past were flagged.
Likewise, you say yourself that moderators may be killing the stories by hand. How is this evidence of so-called fanboys?
There are other possibilities: The HN software may have detected voting rings. What if a bunch of people were submitting stories and voting them onto the front page? Maybe the fanboys were actually pro-Winsupersite!!!
Again, we just don't know, and these arguments seem to come down to "People are flagging/banning stuff I like, so there must be fanboys at work, because any rational person would agree with my views."
Friend, many of my own posts get flagged or banned and I don't take it personally or think of the flaggers in opproprious terms. Shrug this one off. We don't know the whole story, why construct explanations for what we observe in a negative light?
* http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/winsupersite.com
* http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/daringfireball.net
At about twice the rank and 3 times the inbound links, it looks like Reality itself is a fanboy.
A bad Alexa rank causes the site to be banned on HN?
This evidence restated means that HN is not a Microsoft friendly place. OP just termed it as fanboys But I would rather call it Microsoft haters or Microsoft ignorants at least. Given that Microsoft is still a big enough name in the world of computing, this hate/ignorance can only be attributed to being fanboys/girls of other platforms/corporations.
That's a ridiculous claim. The only way that anyone could hate Microsoft is if they are a fanboy for a Microsoft competitor? I'll never buy a car from GM. Does that mean I must be a fanboy for Ford, or Toyota, or some other car company?
Sometimes people have a bad experience (or bad experiences) with a company. And sometimes people just don't happen to like the same things as you.