> Perhaps you had some other benefits in mind?
How many days can you feed your family on 2 bags of groceries? Gonna carry the new TV you just bought on the bus with you? I can't imagine doing normal shopping without a car.
How many days can you feed your family on 2 bags of groceries? Gonna carry the new TV you just bought on the bus with you? I can't imagine doing normal shopping without a car.
4 of us actually live 2 blocks from the grocery store and I think someone gets a couple of bags every other day. The "10 bags of groceries" shopping trip is actually an effect of cars (and suburbanization). When cities are walkable, grocery stores are nearby too.
I think it's obvious that just like a family of 6 can't fit on a bicycle and would need a SUV to go to Florida, you'd need a big vehicle to get a TV home. Presumably, you don't buy a TV every week.
I live in a small town in the American midwest, considered very walkable, lots of bike lanes, etc.
We don't have smaller retail stores within walking distance. Instead we have big-box grocery stores like everywhere else.
We _used_ to have those but in the late 50s they were zoned out of existence.
I'm doing that just fine by using a tramway. And I'm not dead yet :) The good thing is that the hypermarket is only 3 tram stations away, and yes, there's a tram that goes by the hypermarket. Not to mention the 8AM-to-10PM grocery story that is open just outside my building, in case I need something very quick. That's what urbanization is all about. American suburbs don't fall into that category, they're more like Roman rural villas that will find a quick and painful death once the Barbarians "invade" (a stupid metaphor for when gasoline prices in the US will finally reach their normal levels).
And I carried my 43' plasma using a taxi, I agree. I paid the taxi driver 15 bucks (in my country's money), and he even helped me carry it to my building's front-door.
If you visit a city like New York, you'll notice that everything is zoned a bit differently; heck, it looks like it hasn't been zoned at all. Most residential buildings have a store of some kind in the first floor. Consequently, in a city with intermingled commercial and residential buildings, you're never more than a block or three from a grocery or a drug store, and generally never more than a block from a coffee shop or a deli.
Doing your grocery shopping via mass transit is insane. That's why in a city where 75% of the population uses mass transit as their primary form of transportation, you don't. You just walk across the the street.
Zoning originally came about for a few reasons. One was that industrial pollution was a serious issue and people wanted that away from other types of land use. The other was the rise of the car. Zoning has allowed places to require minimum lot sizes or state that mixed-use isn't allowed. One of the reasons we have so few walkable communities in the U.S. (even small ones like old towns used to be) is that zoning doesn't permit it. Because of this, areas that are walkable and are mixed-use are extremely expensive to live in.
Zoning a required minimum number of parking spots is indeed a terrible thing. Back where I went to college, that was a major headache for every business around campus. A bar was blocked from expanding because it couldn't acquire enough parking spots (and you want people driving to a bar why?), and the public library was required to put in a three story car park across the street when it renovated, demolishing a half a block of shops and apartments. This despite being a block and a half from a seven story car park which was never fully filled.
New York, on the other hand, doesn't seem to give a flying fig about parking. You drive, it's your own problem.
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1-3 depending on what I buy. Fortunately both my girlfriend and I walk past a couple of different grocery stores, fish mongers and vegetable stands, on our way home from work, so it's never a problem to drop in and pick up anything we happen to need.
Gonna carry the new TV you just bought on the bus with you?
Nope. Most likely I'll get it delivered to my front door (same with furniture and other similarly sized purchases). If for some reason that isn't an option, I'll call a taxi. Fortunately I buy TVs very rarely.
I can't imagine doing normal shopping without a car.
Are TV's regularly part of your "normal shopping"?
It's much, much better for you to pick the items you need on the internet, or in a showroom, and have them delivered; the delivery round will be much more energy-efficient, serving multiple customers in one go with one vehicle. We are slowly getting there, one item at a time (first books/cds, then electronics, then nappies, then then then...). The main stumbling block (people who want to check the horse's mouth before buying it) is really not a problem in the age of precise mechanization, food standards and cheap shipping.
I do my grocery shopping online, most of the time.
Now I don't buy a fridge everyday, but I've had to get enough large items over the last 10 years for the house to make the pickup truck worth it (when I first got the truck I was picking up some 2x4s, couple sheets of drywall, etc, about every couple weeks -- finished the basement, built a shed, etc, buy buying a couple pieces at a time).
There are definitely drawbacks, however, most of the large items, and the bulk of the groceries, can be done with an online order today. Smaller items can be picked up while out. (No regular jobs here - all independent business, contracting, etc.)
It would be harder if this were a two adults-two children situation and the parents both worked 9-5 jobs. The kids would be more dependent, and it would be tough for everyone to hit the work/school schedule exactly. However, it wouldn't be impossible.
Last time I lived in a city, there were no reasonably priced grocery stores within walking distance, just tons of pizza shops and fast food. I live in the suburbs now. I buy more groceries per trip and eat healthier now -- I'm not tempted to eat out instead of revisit a grocery store when I'm out of food every few days.
I moved my 42" TV in my sedan because it was safer there than in the moving truck.
Even when I lived in the suburbs, there were grocery stores at that distance. It just never occurred to me that one could bike to the store and buy stuff, I always drove until I tried using the bike. I think the problem is more psychological than reasoned.
That doesn't make much sense. The shop is responsible for whatever happens to the stuff they deliver. If they damaged it, they'd have to repair it at no extra cost. Using your own car, on the other hand, puts the liability on you.
The nearest big supermarket is about 30 minutes walk away, or about 5 minutes by scooter, somewhat longer by bicycle (owing to a road that bicycles aren't allowed on). There's a bus that goes directly to it every 15 minutes, but it doesn't really save time, only effort.
I can't imagine only visiting a grocery store every few days, not least because I like my food fresh, particularly for baked items. Having to plan ahead for meals also kills some spontaneity. Knowing that you're 5 minutes away from buying anything you need, for a trivial transport cost, and having no concern for traffic (owing to scooter agility and filtering), is liberating.
As for moving 42" TV in a sedan being safer for the TV, one, I doubt that, two, I'm more concerned about the driver than the TV. I know, odd.
How often would you say you buy a new TV? Making transportation decisions based on a once-in-a-10-year purchase isn't that rational. Plus, you could just have the TV delivered.
Why would you need a car for shopping in a city?