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It's this fetishization of the seemingly more "rational" position that these people seem to have. It's similarly mind-boggling when people have discussions about free-will and determinism. Free will is quite possibly the most fundamental experience humans have yet people will flatly deny free will exists.

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It’s usually semantics.

What do you mean by free will? Yes, we make decisions. Yes, we have the experience of having will and choosing things.

But where does the “freedom” of that will come from? Everything we desire or have preferences for, and everything we decide is based upon some prior event or factor.

It’s an illusion of free will. People often get caught up on this because they feel it scary and dehumanizing to say “we don’t have free will”, but really, determinism or at least compatibilism make way more sense than some magic “free will” that just arises out of thin air.

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