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Show HN: WeExpire.org – Notes readable only after your death

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Hm please don't trust a service such as this over a decent legal firm, you can find always a reliable solicitor / legal support in your neighborhood.

One problem with "reliable solicitors" is that it's entirely possible for their firm to go out of business too, with few, if any, repercussions for the proprietors.

I'd prefer to trust something like a self-hosted Vaultwarden instance [1] with emergency access [2]. Maybe with redundancy even.

[1] https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

[2] https://bitwarden.com/help/emergency-access/

I think that is a solved problem. The legal profession is so old, and they are part of a system, that I would bet that most reliable solicitors have a continuity plan for their clients’ wills and other long terms legal paperwork.

true but I trust a well reviewed estate lawyer over any SaaS product

Solicitors in a civilised country are highly regulated and if they were to cease trading the local regulator will appoint a firm to handle their clients needs

biggest risk with a technology based solution for this is the person stops paying their hosting bill. I'd like to see this app open source the billing, so in case the person who runs the site disappears, the community can continue playing

We are working with our hosting provider in order to inform the users in case the bad happens on our side and in order to provide 1 more year where the website and the emergency notes can still be accessible (but no emergency notes can be generated).

Hm no thanks. I trust these guys far more than I do "my neighborhood solicitor/legal support" and I don't even know who runs the site.

Sorry for the shameless plug but I also have a similar service: https://backupdiary.com

It works as a "dead man's switch". As long as you sign in at least once a month your note will be stay private. Otherwise, your designated recipients will get it in the email.

It seems risky to be storing sensitive information including passwords. How are you protecting this data?

It does sound risky. But I wanted it to be secure enough so I could (and I am) store my own sensitive info too.

All the information your write in your note is encrypted using 256-bit AES key. Encryption keys and the data itself are stored in different services. So even if the database is leaked/hacked, the information will not be public.

Nice one!

Interesting stuff if you find this thing useful:

Google's Inactive Account Manager: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3036546?hl=en

Shamir's Secret Sharing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_secret_sharing

interesting SaaS. now, you have any plan in case you go out of business?

You'd think so with a name like "we expire"

* or if you are seriously injured.

Yep, that's true! Unfortunately HN title would have been too long with that.

I have used https://www.deadmantracker.com since creation. This one seems to be similar but, perhaps, less intrusive—I have to check-in on DMT each week. Neat. The important part is permanence, if the service is to be trusted, and to be useful.

Thank you. Dead Man Tracker is a nice tool, however it completely relies on constant email notifications in order to understand if something bad happened (a more complex system to maintain). Also all the personal data is stored in a database that could be breached.

Long time ago, about 10 years ago, I thought of similar contraption with already google-verse system. Basically you upload a encrypted file (text or pdf) to google drive with public share link, and add an event to your Google calendar with a 3 month advance notice (& 2 months, 1 months, all by email), one time recurring only. As soon as you get notification email (XYZ is happening in 90 days, you go to Google Calendar & change event month to next 3rd month. But then they released Google Inactivity Manager.

Blockchain based solution. Helps with the survivability of the provider issue with these.

https://sarcophagus.io/

random but this is probably a good use of blockchain tech. a smart contract that stores the notes and unlocks using a key that is given to a loved one. perfect for use case for a lasting note. only time this goes down is if the entire network goes down.

Yep, agree!

Interesting idea. If, for some reason, your site goes down, will a note still be readable?

The emergency note can be readable only via WeExpire, and that's for security reasons - you always need to be notified that someone is trying to access your emergency note.

As any other platform WeExpire could temporarily go down, but it will be always back online before than the minimum inactivity time you can set up in your emergency note (1 day).

Yeah, but platforms fail, go out of business and can have issues.

If you use this service (or any other of the ones mentioned in the other comments) you'll need to periodically check that they are ok (and that all your details are up to date).

Um... someone is going to use this for sending their suicide notes.

And that's an issue because? I mean it might be a human issue but it's not a technology issue.

Probably. Just like email or any other communication medium. I don't think that should stop people from coming up with new ways of doing communication.

Gmail "Schedule Send" feature is good enough this use case :)

"Please delete my browser history" That is all.

Nice idea!

Thx.

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