I guess if you are on a visa. There are some "office heroes" there for sure, and they will probably realize years later that they were abused.
This much abuse. What abuse? Can you tell us more in detail?
What if, just what if, the workers actually like working hard and making their lives better? That seems to never enter the conversation here.
Honestly, the culture on HN makes workers like me more resentful. It's 100% negative, there is absolutely 0% optimism in these threads. Not even one comment here (or elsewhere on HN).
> ... like working hard and making their lives better
It's true that work can be very rewarding - "Find a job you enjoy doing, and you will never have to work a day in your life" and all that. Plus who doesn't like making their lives better? I guess it is up to the reader to decide whether a job in Musk-era Twitter is one of those jobs, and whether working for the new "hardcore" Twitter would make your life better. I can only speak for myself but if I worked somewhere and I saw that after a takeover:
- half of my colleagues got fired one day
- some people occasionally get fired for on-the-spot violations like answering a CEO's question
- the company went from nearly-profitable to incredibly unprofitable (let’s even ignore how it got that way)
- the company stopped paying some bills and were kicked out of some offices and services
- the owner-and-CEO had become an extremely ... divisive figure, shall we say
- the owner-and-CEO declares that the existing product is brittle and broken and needs a ground-up "2.0" rewrite (a second system so to speak...)
... then I wouldn't see this as some wonderful opportunity, I'd see it as my workplace being turned into a plaything for a tempestuous billionaire who might not be as competent as he wants us to believe. And if I was a wealthy and financially-secure US permanent resident looking at a buoyant jobs market then I'd probably leave, take a bit of a breather then start looking for a new job at a different company. However if any one of those things didn't hold (maybe I'm an H1B visa holder, maybe I am young and don't have much savings or experience, maybe the job market kinda sucks, maybe I have am the sole earner in my family) I'd be in a much different and more depressing situation - maybe not literally "in shackles" but certainly not as free as you are suggesting.
In other words, what exactly do you think the people working there will "realize years later"?
Could you specifically list the abuses being done to these engineers that they are unaware of?
There’s a whole swaths of science and research behind this. It’s why domestic violence can continue for years unknown to anyone, even from friends, until it’s not.
OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact, but if they are — at a workplace that seems as objectively toxic as Twitter right now — many who are still there won’t likely realize they were until afterwards.
I simply asked OP to list the abuses they think the engineers are unaware of.
> OP isn’t saying they’re being abused as a fact,
OP literally said "It would feel amazing after this much abuse"
> they will _probably realize_ years later that they were abused.
Their "probably" was about them probably realizing, not probably being abused.
OP was absolute in their accusation of abuse in his above post that I quoted.
That's why I asked them for specific examples.