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Hysteria as you call it is just words and punitive policies. When the CCP starts arming Russia or invades Taiwan as it has signaled it will do with increasing volume over the last five years—reunification is a must—those are violent acts that will lay at the feet of China, not the hysteria of the West.

They've already taken a side with a country determined to wipe the identity of tens of millions of people from the earth and do so with tanks, shells and hundreds of thousands of armed men. What is there to defend there? How many tens of thousands of people must be murdered for their soil for China to disavow it's unlimited friendship?

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No it's not just "words and punitive policies"! Very real people, common and innocent people, are getting attacked on the streets or having their lives ruined by baseless accusations of being "CCP spies" or even "virus spreaders"!

Anti-Asian discrimination cost Chinese restaurants $7.4 billion during the pandemic's first year, new study finds https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/977098

A majority of Americans (55%) support limiting Chinese students studying in the U.S. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans...

Nearly 90% of the defendants charged with spying are of Chinese heritage. This includes citizens with connections to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and long-standing Chinese diaspora communities in Southeast Asia https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/12/02/1040656/china-in...

The environment is pushing the idea that there's a commie under every bed, so they're massively charging many innocent people, and you deny this is hysteria and even look the other way?!

Now you are even engaging in whataboutism for the 2nd time, right after having accused me of doing it.

For all your talk about being only against the CCP, you sure show that you don't care about the people. You're blatantly denying anti-Asian racism that's flared up as a result of all this hysteria.

You should atleast check who you're replying to before you throw your toys out of the cot.

Ah you're right, I apologize on that point.

And in any case you completely side-stepped addressing my point that any violence that results from Western hysteria (as you put it) lies squarely at the feet of China. China alone will be responsible for the deaths that result from a forcible invasion of Taiwan. China will share bloodied hands with Russia if they sell arms to Russia to advance its crusade of terror.

So you are endorsing current violence against Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese citizen in the United States, before China has actually performed any invasions?!?

Actually I was being too charitable in my other reply.

"Olaf Scholz suggested that Germany received bilateral assurances from China that it won't supply Russia with weapons for its war against Ukraine.

EU Commission President von der Leyen said she had seen "no evidence" of Chinese considerations to send arms."

https://www.politico.eu/article/china-ukraine-war-russia-wea...

So you're essentially saying that it's okay to attack Asians in the west even though China has not actually supplied weapons to Russia!?!?!

> So you're essentially saying that it's okay to attack Asians in the west

You seem to care alot more about how Chinese people are perceived abroad than you are at home. While covid coming from China caused increased racism against Asian people in the west, it pales in comparison to the human rights violations that occur on a daily basis in China.

Tho I guess welding people into their homes, separating children, killing animals, genocide against an entire ethnic population, social credit system, millions of homes forclosed, banks stealing money and destorying peoples lives, etc. It's all fake western news.

We know this is all fake because harvard released a paper detailing the results of a survey done by a chinese company in a country where all research and surveys must be reviewed by the CCP before being released told us that 98% of the country loves the CCP.

What's the point of raising all these things? I can dispute those claims but at this point it doesn't matter one bit whether those claims are actually true or not.

How does flooding the media with such claims improve human rights in China? They achieve no positive effects for anyone in China: sanctions and war only hurt people. They are also spectacularly effective at making the lives of Asians in the west miserable.

Yet you keep myopically focusing on these claims, heedless of the actual harm they do to innocent people, just so that you can feel like you're being virtuous for raising these claims. You are not actually supporting human rights, you are abusing the very concept to feel good about yourself.

See what I mean, you care more about saving face than the people suffering. "none of its true, I can dispute it, its you who is wrong"

Look, I don't know why you keep replying to me. No one buys your propaganda and conspiracy theories and whataboutism. You can keep getting upset all you want but it doesn't change the fact you're doing nothing more than attempting to protect the CCP.

You've broken the site guidelines so badly in this thread that I've banned your account. This is a longstanding pattern and it's seriously not cool on this site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34786906 (Feb 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34227145 (Jan 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29665289 (Dec 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29407968 (Dec 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28590539 (Sept 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22893867 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22880789 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827321 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827309 (April 2020)

I hate to ban you, because you've been here a long time and you've posted good things. But this kind of abuse is simply not ok, and if we don't ban accounts that break the rules this badly—not to mention ignore this many warnings—we might as well ban nobody.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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