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> I tried to explain it's a modern enough and capable phone that can do everything the latest iPhone can do, sometimes even better. H

Couple of points here that as far as I’ve seen has yet to be addressed by the comments. It doesn’t matter what the Android phone can do, in the end, no android device beat the social experience of the iPhone.

The texting experience is inferior. The inability to send gifs videos, and photos (It doesn’t matter how good of a photo an android photos can take if the recipient will never seen the quality over text) in a reliable manner, voice messages, and iMessage games is a turn off. The fact that these are degraded/ even more undoable for a group chat enhances the inferiority.

The inability to FaceTime, have group face time, and now share play is also a Downside socially.

The fact is, no android can do what the latest online can do socially

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> no android device beat the social experience of the iPhone.

???

Android phones (and iPhones too, for that matter) can have third-party apps like WhatsApp, Telegram, Zoom, Skype, WeChat, Viber, etc installed.

iMessage absolutely pales in comparison to Telegram.

Doesn’t matter if your friends don’t use it

Literally everywhere else in the world, people don't use iMessage and FaceTime, but third-party apps.

This is solely an American problem manufactured by Americans for Americans, and catalysed by the excessive vapidity and superficiality of social media. You lot appear to like shooting yourselves in the foot a lot (sometimes, not even figuratively).

Ergo the bullying that OP's son is experiencing. Android phones have rivalled iPhones in price for a long time now.

Stop using the word literally incorrectly.

No. He’s literally using the word l”literally” correctly in every instance. Try looking up he definition some time: it may not be what you think.

Link to what you think the definition is please.

It's like the Matrix. The Machines won. The kids would rather be dead than singled out, and the adults have convinced themselves iPhone is the end all, be all even in this comments section. Meanwhile, I'm an exiled American eating scraps or whatever. I can tap into their world with a primitive interface like Discord, but I'm not exactly thrilled about it. If I'm in the real world, I should be able to manipulate their artificial construct, but it's actually a self-imposed walled garden. They don't want to leave, and they want to keep outsiders at bay. The Machines are perfect guard dogs.

Are they your "friends" if they refuse to use a common app? I have Whatsapp, Telegram and Signal installed, so my REAL friends ( some of them on iPhones) can reach me on the app they prefer.

> can have third-party apps like WhatsApp, Telegram, Zoom, Skype, WeChat, Viber, etc installed.

And all of those still aren’t Facetime & iMessage. The fact that’s they’re third party apps is friction enough. The fact that you don’t need an android to use them is enough. The fact that this takes place in America so I doesn’t matter what other countries use is enough.

It’s like this: Nearby Share will never be superior to Airdrop since not every android comes with it. It’s superiority doesn’t come in that it could be a superior service, it comes in that’s its available out of the box no configuration necessary. Every iPhone user is able to use because every iPhone user has it. There’s no installation required to get it and it’s easy to use in less than 5 seconds.

> iMessage absolutely pales in comparison to Telegram.

Telegram is great. I like telegram. I would never ask for someone’s telegram. Here’s a little known social media secret for telegram: it’s notoriously used for porn.

Here’s a little known social media secret for telegram

who cares? you may as well stop using the internet at all, if that is your argument.

people who look for this stuff will find it. avoiding telegram is not going to help. nor is using telegram making it any easier. you don't accidentally run into that.

> The fact that’s they’re third party apps is friction enough

Clearly not enough friction for the rest of the world.

> The fact that you don’t need an android to use them is enough

But you need an iPhone for FaceTime and iMessage, and iPhones are non-trivial expenditures in many parts of the world.

> The fact that this takes place in America so I doesn’t matter what other countries use is enough

There are a lot of things wrong with the US, and this strange submission to megacorpos is amongst them.

> Nearby Share will never be superior to Airdrop since not every android comes with it

I concede Airdrop is very useful. But most people I know also use Telegram to share files.

> Here’s a little known social media secret for telegram: it’s notoriously used for porn

Hmmm...

> little-known

> notorious

A bit of a logical disconnect there, but anyway: who cares that it's used for porn? Like another commenter said, if people look for it, they will find it. Reddit has porn on it too; so does (did?) Tumblr and Twitter.

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