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There's nothing wrong with asking exiting customers if there were/are problems that could be addressed. But there absolutely is something wrong with badgering/harassing/tricking or wasting the time of customers leaving, as it will cause reputational damage and worse cause repeat custom to almost disappear.
It is just yet another example of how modern US business culture values the Short over Long Term. In the short you see a slightly lower Customer turnover, but in the long term you see a HUGE reduction in returning customers (who remember the exit process from last time).
To be clear: A short survey makes it feels like a company gives a crap about why you're leaving, but it needs to be via the same mechanism you used to sign up (e.g. online sign-up? Then online exit), and it shouldn't feel like a way to block the exit. This is particularly problematic if you're forced to call and the person on the other end is on commission. They're more often than not just there to wear you down and make you hate interacting with the company, by its very nature if you do leave you will be unlikely to return since that's the last thing you remember.
I've blacklisted multiple businesses for that practice and I often check the cancellation process during sign-up to avoid it.
Posting it on HN would probably get someone to fix it.
It's not a hack or anything illegal, lurking Adobe lawyer, put your headed paper away.
So, when I resubscribed to a few other papers again, the NYT wasn't on that list. It'll be a decade before I think about giving them another cent.
I thought I heard that they ended this practice now, but...well, I don't trust them anymore. Once trust is burned, it takes a long time to recover.
I have seen many companies succeed despite them clearly viewing their users as pawns. In fact, most YC companies that try to sell me things are blatantly transactional and while that has always ruled me out as a customer many of them are doing just fine.
Would be better to have hard data rather than empathy porn.
They make the highest end guitar audio processing HW and are constantly providing free SW updates that greatly enhance the unit. Their lack of a subscription model for SW flies in the face of current HW/SW product monetization "wisdom." Compare to their competition which maybe pushes out one or two firmware updates over the life of the product that are mostly bug fix.
I have bought every main release of their flagship product and will keep doing so even though it is way more than a bedroom player needs. If you are into guitar and a hacker, I recommend checking it out. It is a massive evolution beyond the old school pedalboard and tube amp world (which of course have their old school charms). It has an insane level of depth and most parameters are controllable in real time.
I fondly remember people DM me on Twitter how they got a job after reading my book.
Selling stuff is good, but people telling you that they got more value than they paid for is awesome.
React from Zero: Learn React Using the JavaScript You Already Know
- https://www.newline.co/react-from-zero/
- https://www.amazon.com/React-Zero-Learn-JavaScript-Already/d...
* No affiliation; book is linked to from OP’s profile.
Always makes me chuckle.
The book is quite old now and newer React features are missing, so I guess the lack of reviews won't change in the future.
I recently bought a hat from Boston Scally Company. It wasn't a super cheap made-in-China $10 hat like you can easily find on Amazon or eBay, I paid $50 for it. When I got the hat, it was covered in threads. Some needed to be cut off. When I emailed the company, their reply was "we're sorry you aren't happy with the quality of the hat, you can just remove the threads and it won't affect the integrity of the hat."
That's the wrong response. The correct response is "We're embarrassed the hat shipped to you like that. Would you like us to send you a replacement or do you want to send it back for a refund?" I am certainly not going to buy anything from this company again when they can't acknowledge their screw up.
Own your mistakes. In almost all cases it's the right move and you earn the respect of the customer.
They sent me a free replacement and a spare in case it happens again (which several years later it hasn't).
Such a simple gesture, with no fuss whatsoever, and here I am praising them https://www.jaybe.com/ whenever I get the opportunity.
I bought it from a third party retailer so they would have been within their rights to give me the runaround instead.
I wrote the company to ask where I could buy a replacement. The agent sent me a mail with a picture asking me to confirm that was the part I was talking about, mailed a replacement strap and two thumbscrews for free, and emailed a few days later to check that it arrived in time for our lake vacation.
It made such an impression that O’Brien is my default/check-them-first brand.
Two years after buying it I wanted to install a windows in the rounded roof section of the tunnel.
I made a mistake and cut the wrong section of the roof destroying this section of the transparent plastic cover.
A new cover section would have cost me about 140 Euros if I bought it here. I asked the company what they would charge me for a new sheet (4 by 6 meters btw).
They just asked for my address and told me they would send one free of charge. And they did.
I was positively blown away.
Since then I have recommended about 2.5 to 4k of revenue to them from family and friends.
The sad part is that it works. My favorite companies are not the ones I've given the most money, because my favorites have provided tremendous value for my dollar. I might adore Leatherman and use their products multiple times a day but the fact is I spent $150 fifteen years ago and never had to again.
WHERE ARE YOUR PRODUCTS MADE?
We design all products locally here in the US. Final assembly is done in PRC to maintain high level of quality at an affordable price."
PRC is the "People's Republic of China"
I think if you read between the lines their response is them basically telling you this. The hat was made-in-China that you ordered of a website from your house for 50 dollars and your expecting it to be tailor made quality. I don't know if you order many clothes online but this is how it is. I've ordered jackets, dress shirts, socks, pants everything and they come this way about a quarter to 50% of the time. If you have ever worked at retail clothing stores this is what the employee's sift through before it goes out on the floor.
Responses from companies and customers are all subjective. I've had BHER send me replacement paint, does it mean I only buy from them, no, so what difference does it make to them or me. Its quite a bit easier to just embrace returning stuff and not having high expectations with stuff that from your vantage point is a blackbox.
Kangol hats are made in China and sell at similar price point. They're nice hats for the price. By contrast, the finish on this hat was less than I'd expect when buying a hat from the $10 rack at the gas station.
I've ordered lots of garments online over the years and this was by far the poorest presentation I've ever seen.
My personal opinion, is that it would be worth *your time* to go bespoke. There is no reason to not treat yourself to quality clothing in your lifetime. Complaining takes no real effort and you are worth putting the time into.
It's not working for me. I own a mobile app (B2C) with paying users and this is the hardest part: Talking to users.
I'm literally offering money to my users to talk to them but nobody wants to.
What am I doing wrong?
I personally avoid talking to customer's service as much as I can. I'm more likely to give up on a product or switch to alternatives than say anything. There are a very few exceptions to this. I suspect many other people are like me.
I can understand what you say about unhappy users, they are the hardest to establish a conversation with, in fact, I had yet no luck with them.
I also try to contact my most engaged and paying users, very little luck there.
So, either everyone is laying (very unlikely), or I'm doing something wrong.
I'm an engineer, so I can definitely think about products I use which I'd enjoy talking to the developers and designers. Sometimes they can be the owners too. But if they are more about getting a business running and started, I don't care about that stuff. So, I wouldn't personally want to talk. I suspect people who are interested in running a business would like that. So, maybe your users are not mainly from that segment of the population.
I'd be willing to accept $100/hr from someone I'm paying $100/month to, but I wouldn't care for $25/hr from someone I'm paying $25/year to.