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The message being sent to customers claims that they “remain more aggressively priced than our peer providers”, which is nonsense as far as I can tell—unless they now consider their “peer providers” to be the likes of AWS, Azure, and GCP?

Hetzner Cloud’s price is ~40% of Linode’s new price[0], OVHcloud ~50–60%[1], and Vultr ~80%[2]. Of the big-name VPS providers, I think only DigitalOcean is more expensive now[3], and so they will be the same after this change.

A “bold new approach to the cloud”[4], indeed.

[0] https://www.hetzner.com/cloud

[1] https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/compare/

[2] https://www.vultr.com/pricing/

[3] https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/droplets

[4] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/a-bold-new-approach-to-th...

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What is really weird about this, they are now more expensive than comparable systems on AWS Lightsail. (Assuming they have not already updated the pricing page on linode.com)

https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing

So I am really not sure how they are looking at their "peers"

To be fair, though, the lightsail instances that are subject to oppressive throttling aren't really a good comparison. Those should be dirt cheap, as they are useless if you use them in almost any real fashion.

I had some personal projects a while ago that I used to run on Linode, I later moved them to LightSail and I never noticed any performance difference in these projects running there.

These were Ruby on Rails projects.

It depends on the instance. If you use up the burst capacity, you will notice. The very bottom end only allows about 5% usage before the throttling kicks in. There's a chart here:

https://lightsail.aws.amazon.com/ls/docs/en_us/articles/amaz...

Hmm, interesting. I unfortunately don't have the metrics anymore since this project is long dead.

But I do remember on another host (I tried a different one between linode and light sail) that I actually got an email that I was using too much CPU and was shut down.

So I do remember using a lot of CPU, but I don't know where that percent was.

Doesn't LightSail rely on t-family (burstable) instances? If so, that's probably because your projects' regular sustained usage do not go above the minimum threshold (which is fairly low).

Lightsail are among the worst when it comes to actual benchmarks. Though you might not notice if your apps aren't very resource demanding.

Their fastest instance type is still in the bottom ~15% of this list for example: https://www.vpsbenchmarks.com/screener

Lightsail is terrible for anything serious. They are extremely overprovisioned.

I wasn't aware Lightsail was this reasonable, thanks. Can you share if you found the speed comparable to other VPS?

A major difference about Digital Ocean (A long time user) why you may want to mindfully avoid them:

- DO intentionally does not let you easily download your disk images for backup or DR easily - which Linode and others do without issue to increase lock in. No need to reply with linux commands on how to do it. :)

- DO has a catastrophic flaw in their infrastructure where they will fail to charge a valid credit cards on file and proceed to delete all servers and backups automatically, and irrevocably.

They should not be trusted with anything in production that can't be mirrored to another cloud.

Appreciate some of the other links.

Yep - I just migrated my gaming server to Hetzner a few weeks back. With this increase in price I'll be pushed to migrate my other self-hosted services there as well.

End of an era for me - I've been with Linode for over a decade due to their pricing and positive customer support experiences. And, truth is I haven't used their support for 4-5+ years so... easy decision.

Silver lining here - Hetzner's US datacenters couldn't have opened at a better time!

Same, I have been using Linode for a little over 10 years. The main barrier to migrating off is that I will lose the IP I have been using to send mail for the last 10 years. I guess big email is going to win and I'll have to use fastmail or Google in some way now.

OVH had a data center burn to the ground just a couple of years ago, due largely to owner error. I’m not in the market for a European data center but that would give me substantial pause.

I guess hetzner and scaleway will soon follow :'(

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