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Have you considered some people just don't use the same features as you?

I have tried a couple of these SaaS note-taking apps and I've immediately hated them. Too much fluff, too much bullshit only put in to justify charging a price for what is effectively notepad running in a cloud. No, I don't need to sync or share anything. I don't need integration with 50 other useless cloud products. I have very little use for software which is proprietary and can't be arbitrarily beaten into submission to do what I want, and only what I want. I have no interest in software which is mobile first and has no decent native app. And no, electron doesn't count.

Acting as though you have the superior taste and everyone who disagrees with you is just out touch only weakens your argument.

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If you want to smash rocks, go smash rocks. I'm not against people who want to use emacs, or org mode, or ed and keep it to themselves. I am against people making bold faced claims to outsiders in order to entice them into an ecosystem that is solidly last century. I am against perpetuating myths and ignoring the terrible UX and learning curve of emacs+org mode. And I find it appalling how emacs drones flock to every emacs or org mode post on hacker news and spout off a bunch of nonsense about how org mode is basically nirvana.

I'm not interested in hearing about how you hate the cloud, or you need a terminal based mail editor because "bells and whistles don't appeal to you", or you need to control every aspect of your system down to the ROM to get anything done. Most of us just want to get stuff done and focus on our actual problems, and that's easy to see - big corpos aren't building out your dream world because no one wants it, that's capitalism baby. Most of us want a secure cloud. Most of us want nice, modern, easy to use features and the advances that have come with decades of UX and AI research.

You can have secure, or you can have cloud, pick one.

> Most of us just want to get stuff done and focus on our actual problems, and that's easy to see - big corpos aren't building out your dream world because no one wants it, that's capitalism baby. Most of us want a secure cloud. Most of us want nice, modern, easy to use features and the advances that have come with decades of UX and AI research.

Most of us don't care for the bulk of what gets posted on HN. I'm not seeing the relevance of the diatribe.

Just because others like something doesn't mean there is pressure on you to. Just because you like something else doesn't mean you need to go post about tools that serve a very different purpose.

This is the equivalent of posting on a Rust submission why you like Haskell so much more. Who cares?

> I find it appalling how emacs drones flock to every emacs or org mode post

Are you even hearing yourself.

It’s weird that almost every emacs or vim related post has a thread like this, filled with hate. Hard to explain it honestly. I’ve yet to see a person who would force somebody to use vim instead of whatever editor the other guy is using. Nobody is taking away the beautiful software that have come with decades of whatever. But anyway here we are.

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