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I think this is a trojan integration.

MS will promptly appeal to the regulators (and possibly litigate) as soon as Apple breaks this.

You realize that MS isn’t using some type of secret hack? iOS has supported sending messages and notifications over BT forever. It’s how third party watches were able to display notifications before the Apple Watch was introduced.

Why would Apple try to break it? It poses zero risk to their product line, and in fact might help a little. You still have to buy an iOS device to do iMessage.

Because that's what Apple has been doing for it's whole existence. Creating barriers to their devices outside of anything Apple. Honestly it's better to just not use Apple at all for these reasons.

I agreed with you until I stopped and wondered...why? If Windows Phone were still around, this would make sense. Since it's not, I don't see Microsoft's incentive to get bogged down in litigation on messaging.

What made you agree in the first place? It's an unfounded claim that (to me) appears to be rooted in Apple's "us against the world"-style marketing. Microsoft has written apps for Apple for decades - why would they betray them for poorly-made iMessage integration?

I'm legitimately trying to understand how someone could come to this conclusion. Either Apple is complicit in allowing Microsoft's backdoor, or it's not trojan horse. It is obviously not the former.

Based on what, exaxtly?

Likely the new EU Digital Markets Act, which requires interoperabilty from messaging applications.

I'm more curious what they mean by "Trojan integration". Considering how Microsoft has been a trusted Apple app developer for over 20 years, that's a pretty heavy accusation.

And seeing that MS is using publicly available APIS that have been built into iOS since at least 2014

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