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Wayland is the default on RHEL since 2019.

Wayland is the default on Centos since 2019.

Wayland is the default on Ubuntu and Debian since 2022.

In Arch, Wayland is the default for GNOME installs.

Wayland is far from "barely usable"

And yes, I remember 1999. X was a pain to get working properly with many graphics cards. Some things never change...

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Have you ever tried sharing your screen? Do your organization uses Microsoft Teams? It is barely usable for quite some people.

Wayland screen sharing works fine (in Chrome, Webex...). It doesn't work in Teams, but that's Microsoft's issue, since they didn't bother with implementing it.

If it's preventing your users to switch to your platform, it's your problem too...

Microsoft releasing worse implementation for competing system? How surprising. /s

The linux team client seems to be completely unmaintained and might be thrown away soon. If you need to use teams, use it in a browser.

This, teams works just fine in the browser.

I use linux at home, but have to use Windows at work. Microsoft team's desktop app even runs like ass on Windows.

The Linux Teams client has been unceremoniously abandoned. The debs have been removed from the ms-teams repository. The download instructions haven't been updated, it's managed shockingly poorly.

the rpm repo is also empty, in the same unceremonial way.

> Do your organization uses Microsoft Teams? It is barely usable for quite some people.

That describes Teams on any platform.

I'm on Arch on my work machine and it started working with pipewire about 3 months ago... no config necessary just works as intended both screen and window. There are some others at work on Ubuntu LTS but that is because Ubuntu is using ancient packages.

Ah, but the reply was about defaults. Do any of those distros ship with Pipewire as the default? If so, I'm sure it hasn't been since 2019 as the original poster claimed.

Pretty much all distros ship pipewire. Just not as the default audio server.

Fedora has it as default, but that's only been since 2021 not 2019. It's still been a couple of years though.

FYI, the native MS Teams client, which doesn't implement screen capture on Wayland, has been discontinued. You can't even download it any more!

https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams/pool/main/t/te...

> Wayland is the default on Ubuntu and Debian since 2022.

In Debian, only GNOME has Wayland by default. KDE wouldn't be there for next release, and there's a long list of (unsupported) [0]

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland#Desktops

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