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Comment by hn_throwaway_99 | Hacker News Reader

Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info:

1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was.

2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request

3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why this happened

I'm guessing maybe there are some articles/forums/etc. that have some more context. If so, you should submit links to those instead. If not, and you just want to bring attention to this, submit a text submission to explain more details around what's going on.

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Only 1) would be really valuable here. Expecting a legitimate 2) explanation from a DMCA request is idealistic/naive.

Otherwise HN comments usually provide the rest. News/blog posts with loaded headlines can often derail conversations as much as provide context. Which is why I'm hesitant to expect HN's frontpage to be an editorialized newspaper or heavily moderated forum that better serves the low engagement crowd.

If you have an actual better source then by all means, share it. I'm sure dang will consider swapping it.

> explanation from a DMCA request is idealistic/naive.

There is not even proof/details it was a DMCA takedown request. Given the subject matter, of course wouldn't be surprised, but all you are going to get in the comments is pure speculation/blathering because there is simply no information about what's going on.

No, GitHub posts their received DMCA notices publicly and links to them from the takedown page. So 2) is a reasonable expectation and it isn't present here, suggesting the post title is pure speculation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com/iptv-org right there next to the title.

https://archive.org/details/github.com-iptv-org-iptv_-_2022-...

https://old.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/j1l8ps/iptvorg_hit_wi...

https://web.archive.org/web/20201117192948if_/https://codelo...

https://web.archive.org/web/20220925054954if_/https://iptv-o...

The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related. Thought experiment: What are the other ways a repository containing only URLs could violate Github ToS.

Still thinking mind reading is a better option considering your #3 link to reddit is from 2 years ago.

> The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related.

Doesn't sound like it.

When I clicked on the link and saw the placeholder page, I was wondering "wtf did anyone bother submitting this useless link?". My expectation was the link would have been to the DMCA notice sent to GitHub, which would have been more useful.

Next step was to look for further info in the HN thread instead.

Anyway, while your post has some useful links, the parent's post is also correct and it's a bit crappy to claim things about it which aren't actually in it.

https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv-org.github.io/files/1077347...

From a mirrored/archived version of the README:

>Collection of publicly available IPTV (Internet Protocol television) channels from all over the world.

Asking submitters to do that is a little rude given that moderators are in the habit of editing out added details and redirecting to original sources. Crafting a good submission is not generally appreciated.

That's not really accurate.

I'm not asking the submitter to editorialize the headline, which is what is frowned upon. In fact, the headline already is editorialized, because it says this was a DMCA takedown, but there is no evidence to support that. I'm asking to either:

1. Submit to an article source that actually has more information.

2. Submit a text submission, where it's fine to add details of what's going on, or even to ask for more information. E.g. this happens all the time for users who were cut off from some service, then they explain the situation and ask for assistance.

Claiming conspiracy is no excuse not to write the “here’s why I posted this” paragraph recommended by the guidelines, mods, and other readers.

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