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> I learned from guitar that the lift of the finger can be easier on it than lateral stretches

The energy you give to the string is hundreds of times more than the energy you give to the kbd (do not consider this as an exaggeration because I'm a bass player). Also lateral stretching of your pointer finger is something easy to train, I used to have that experience while learning a piano playing.

I don't understand why do anybody invent a new kbd layout after Dvorak's work? He gifted us a beautiful set of aoeui layouts. Just get used to it and help with this information to your friends who are willing to get rid of Qwerty, that's it.

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Unfortunately dvorak didn’t have modern technology and algorithms to design his layout. Colemak is the modern successor and is installed on many computers already, unlike other dvorak alternatives (though not as common dvorak unfortunately).

> Unfortunately dvorak didn’t have modern technology and algorithms to design his layout.

I am fond of keyboard layouts so I beg you to name any works proving your point. Because Colemak and Workman are layouts for Ctrl-C Ctrl-V folks while August Dvorak was not bonded with need to follow somebody's muscular memory.

Worse, he Designed DVORAK for use in typewriters to keep them from jamming! (Vowels on the left ) colemak on the other hand used algorithms to put keys in the most useful places, while still maintaining muscle memory for copy paste and cut. It is very easy to look up comparisons between DVORAK and Colemak to see that Colemack is objectively more efficient.

I use DVORAK on my phone however because with two finger thumb typing and no ability to roll your letters , Having the Vowels under One thumb is more efficient.

You can’t just hand wave away the benefits of the ctrl-z/x/c/v which cannot be remapped. Each of these incredibly common and useful shortcuts must be fully abandoned or used with both hands in Dvorak, causing the right hand to continually need to find the mouse again.

Ctrl-A Ctrl-X and Ctrl-Z is enough good for me on dvorak. What about mouse, I started to learn Dvorak and Vim exactly because I do not like mouse.

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