It’s not “fanbois”, it’s just reality. HN isn’t the one that needs to get a grip here.
It’s not “fanbois”, it’s just reality. HN isn’t the one that needs to get a grip here.
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In other news my Ford is not as comfortable as your Rolls Royce, and my Sekonda watch is not going to last like your Rolex....
They could! And in fact, do.
OP, however, is complaining about the existence of the Apple comparison, which is simply unavoidable. I'm just responding that instead of complaining about it, move on to the discussions that float your boat.
No one tell my Timex! This thing's running for life
(Yes Fairphone have excellent score too, but they are basically ancient)
Fairphone is a repairable budget phone. You can't compare budget to flagship on performance or modernity of the hardware. That makes no sense.
All that said, bend it whichever way you like and this Nokia’s value is impossible to beat.
Buying a "budget" phone that has no guarantee of long term parts availability, OS upgrades, etc is certainly worth comparing to Apple's lowest cost devices factored out over the sheer number of years they offer support/service for. I appreciate the aspect of right-to-repair on this device and I'm not saying the device shouldn't exist, but it's the height of absurdity to think it wouldn't get compared to Apple's devices at some point in the conversation.
Hell, even conversations about the Fairphone end up drawing these same comparisons since Apple's recycling program is pretty good.
On the other side of the coin, all Apple devices have an expiry date. Many Android phones unlock their bootloader and enable community support after the vendor has thrown in the towel. Nothing similar exists on iOS, and it's a damn shame - it forces Apple to depreciate usable hardware. In a world where reuse and reduction is preferable to recycling, Apple should stop pretending like it's free recycling program is a replacement for serviceable design and open hardware. Until Apple stops being a necessary step of the recycling process, recycling iPhones is no easier than disposing of Asbestos.
People (rightfully) get pissed when others shit on camera-shy companies like Nokia or Dell trying something repair-friendly. You're like the person who's saying that nobody should buy the Raspberry Pi because your 1u rackmount has better performance-per-dollar. You're not wrong, but it's an apples-to-oranges product comparison.