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Ask HN: Why pay for ChatGPT premium instead of using GPT3 playground?

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Pretty obvious question. Anything I’m missing?

ChatGPT is fine tuned to be a chatbot. It is likely a pretty decent amount of work/credits to train GPT3 to do what ChatGPT does. I'm sure there are instances where this would make sense though. It is a little bit like asking "why would I buy an omelette when I could just buy the eggs?"

I'd wager most people use ChatGPT for things that GPT-3 does better. If you want a chatbot, then yes, use the chat version lol.

But most of the time I want search built into my command prompt or something dumb like an idea for an emoji or powerpoint slide title. Then raw GPT is a lot better. Or, say, things like writing code based on my existing code.

There's some benefit to chat, like iterative design. Say, asking it to write a story, then asking it to change parts of the story or tweak it to have different morals. But this can also be fixed with better prompt engineering, idk.

The models aren’t comparable. ChatGPT is better in some ways, particularly in giving “reasonable” responses to naive prompts, and producing acceptable length on requested writing like essays. It’s also much less agreeable — ChatGPT will refuse many inappropriate requests, but the API models never do. The API models will gladly produce offensive or controversial writing if requested, and don’t need to be “jailbroken” the way ChatGPT does.

I bought Plus because ChatGPT is obviously overloaded and often doesn't work. So clearly they need people to start paying otherwise they won't be able to continue offering it as a business. And also it works.

I would use Ask HN but so far almost all of my submissions are nearly completely ignored so here is a somewhat related question. Has anyone heard anything about the OpenAI Foundry thing that will supposedly cost $78000 and have a 32000 token length? I mean the question I have is, will the 32k be available as usage-based for people that don't have tens of thousands of dollars? https://twitter.com/transitive_bs/status/1628118163874516992...

You pay a profitable amount to OpenAI for the playground too. ChatGPT Plus is a little overpriced because it's for unlimited* use.

For me it’s just the formatting. For the click to copy code and the tables. So yeah, paying 20/month for CSS. Still use gpt-3 when I get tired of the nanny sass of chatgpt. I don’t always want to gaslight a bot just to get a simple question answered.

Also, it might be because i'm not on mainland US, but its unavailable 90% of the time for me.

It's not actually the same model. ChatGPT uses InstructGPT, which is davinci-003 with added RLHF training, which makes it a lot better at instructed tasks.

Still experimenting with their API, but I did build this to offer an alternative for when their service is down. I'm not sure if their API is on the same server as their main GPT service. https://trackmybot.com

Playground requests are not free, but OpenAI gives everyone (I think) $18.00 free trial quota. Maybe you could bypass this for now using multiple accounts, but ultimately playground is not meant to be free. (Codex is free though as it's currently in beta)

It's worth noting the free trial credit expires even if you have never use the playground.

That means if you have an old OpenAI account and decide to go play with the playground for the first time today, you can't do anything without paying.

Initially I thought this was $18.00 every 6 months :(

I have a feeling that they are not the same model.

https://twitter.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1627938431887355905

ChatGPT itself provides a decent answer :

ChatGPT is an AI language model designed to engage in conversation and answer a wide range of questions, whereas the GPT-3 playground is a web-based platform for developers to build and test applications using OpenAI's GPT-3 API.

By subscribing to ChatGPT Premium, you can access additional features and benefits, such as ad-free chatting, priority access to the service, longer conversation sessions, and customized responses. Additionally, with ChatGPT Premium, you can support the ongoing development and maintenance of the platform.

If you are a developer looking to build and test applications using GPT-3, then the GPT-3 playground is the best option. However, if you are looking to engage in conversational AI, ChatGPT is a great choice, and ChatGPT Premium can provide additional benefits and features.

Is that actually a decent answer, though, or does it just give the impression of one at first glance? The only truthful feature AFAIK is "priority access"; ad-free chatting, longer conversation sessions, and "customized responses" (whatever that's supposed to mean) appear to be confabulations.

" such as ad-free chatting,"

uh oh, I haven't heard anything about ads in ChatGPT yet.

ChatGPT, what is the best way to cook an egg?

"Before I dive into answering your question, let me take a quick moment to advertise a completely unrelated product. Have you ever found yourself in the middle of an intense workout, only to realize that your gym clothes are too baggy, too tight, or too uncomfortable? Say no more! Introducing the FlexFit Pro 2000, the ultimate workout gear for fitness enthusiasts. With its state-of-the-art fabric and ergonomic design, the FlexFit Pro 2000 will keep you cool, dry, and comfortable, no matter how hard you train. And the best part? It comes in three exciting colors: black, dark black, and slightly less black. Don't wait, order now and take your workouts to the next level!

Now, to answer your question: There are a lot of different opinions on the best way to cook an egg, but ultimately it comes down to personal preference. Some people like their eggs fried, while others prefer them scrambled or boiled. Regardless of how you choose to cook your eggs, it's important to make sure they're cooked thoroughly to reduce the risk of foodborne illness."

I asked it to do this, and removed it from the query lol

Because it's unavailable for me most of the time. If I planned to use it seriously that'd be a non starter

Is chatgpt better than davinci-3 at summarising articles? Does anyone know?

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