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Is there a way to opt out of one's comments being used for this?

Nah, it's no big a deal, its not like cambridge analytica will happen again. They're just using your data to train AI. Who knows may be based on the way you comment, you may get suggestions on which medication you need, or if it's time for the Redbull/starbucks coffee. Nah, all is good. Nothing bad will happen in allowing companies to scrape comments and build models. They're very ethical. In fact, people here are suddenly not so concerned that the model is not open. There is no oversight on how data is being used They are just proud to get answers from a text generator.

The BIG DEAL is not THAT specific instance but the fact that the ML crowd think it's OK to take everything without even asking permission

I think I should've put an /s at the end. Its kind of strange that I see constant discussions here and people harrassing small apps/libraries about how their error collection is not OPT-IN. The whole audacity debacle. But data collection for training ML models is perfectly fine because we sure do know the companies who fund the research, how they will get an ROI.

> The BIG DEAL is...the fact that the ML crowd think it's OK to take everything without even asking permission

Everything they take was freely given. Thrown into the void. Screamed into the wind. It's weird that people are perfectly fine if someone happens to read their words (at all) and fine if some of those who do read them manage to find something in them that is in any way helpful or useful, but the moment they think someone else might make money as a result of something gained from exposure to those same words it's somehow offensive and everyone starts demanding a cut of (usually non-existent) profit.

The "ML" crowd has just as much a right to read and learn from the words I enter on social media platforms as anyone else. I'm not charging any kind of fee for the words of debatable wisdom, fact checking, or shitposting I "contribute". I didn't ask permission before replying to your comment. Why should anyone feel like they should ask for permission from me to read it? What exactly is "taken" from me beyond the time I voluntarily spent participating in online discourse?

Just post a healthy amount of random nonsense along with any of your actual posts to dilute the effects

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> Banana Sebastian housewares fly swimmingly under terrestrial Zruodroru'th Memphis Steve Jobs archipelagos

It's actually more likely to require a bathtub to increase the volume of the reticulated lorries, so I really don't think a farmer's market is the ideal place.

Yes, don’t post on online forums.

Thats how I decided to opt-out of reddit after 16 years.

Why would you want to? Genuinely wondering.

I for one am oh so proud that my valuable ramblings contributed to this majestic machinery.

I agree: when I signed in, I never agreed to let anybody use what I write to do anything they want ! I only agreed to let everybody read, understand, interact with what I wrote

Actually, it makes me feel as bad as knowing that CAPTCHA were used to train image recognition models...

I think it could be a good time to reconsider the question of the consent. I may agree that my words are used to train some IA... but 1) I must be asked (kindly) first and 2) it won't be free!!! (it may be paid to me or the service provider like HN... but it's NOT unpaid work ;-) )

If you're willing to pay for the retraining? ;)

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