Pessimistic thoughts on startups (2020)
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This leads to a rat race by which instead of making the best product to solve the problem they originally intended, they try to market their company as best as possible to VCs.
The idea was always build something impactful and make it as profitable as possible via fulfilling your company's mission. You can see the ramifications already in the last 2-3 rounds of startups, all of them looking for easy money "uber for X" "AI for Y"...
Each one gives him some new way to ‘level up’ in the game that is startups, without having to launch a real product or business. It’s all about grooming the startup to look good to VCs.
I joked with him that his real business should be consulting with startups that go through accelerators since he’s a veritable expert at it now.
They’ll run out of money in 2-3 years if it’s not working.
No. They won't run out of money in 2-3 years, they IPO. Or at least, they did in a zero-interest rate environment.
"VCs pay the angels. PE pays the VCs. IBs pay the PEs. All for the hope of an IPO so the market will pay the IBs."
"The entire market ecology has a tough time adapting to the end of cheap (even free) money, with cash flow, rather than "valuation" being the central focus. Those who entered finance after 2008 are, basically, unskilled labor. Lehman in 2008 was a picnic compared to 2000 if you were doing tech related ventures."
Witnessed it first hand in private equity and now startups. Usually the mission is to build a compelling product and sell it to the best of your ability. VCs are gasoline.
Making the process more gamified changed the incentives to be about getting more gasoline from VCs instead of making a real company that makes its own gas.
This doesn't stop, either. I've been at a company that's over 7 years old, a leader (top... 1? top 3 at least) in their space, over 500 people, and still goes on and on about being a startup. My inner cynic says this is because they can't let go of 'what got them there' and transition to big-boy pants, so they continue with the myth of the fungible tech employee, etc.
> The idea was always build something impactful and make it as profitable as possible via fulfilling your company's mission.
This is why it's important to really venture out with your network and environment. I used to feel this way regarding startups in general but going out of my way to meet people not in SV, SF, VC and going out of those places really help. There's a lot of cool stuff being done outside of our little bubble here in HN
Nah, the idea was always to make a lot of money. It was never to build something impactful or useful. Sure that may be stated goal, but without path to monetisation it aint happening, and for so many things that are either good or helpful, they can't be monetised ...
The VC industry to me is in a state that Hedge Funds were prior to their free fall in 2008. You were a high networth individual, you put some money into a hedge fund to be part of the club and paid your 2 and 20. It was often not the best investment decision but it was fashionable. In the past 10-15 years it has become a similar trend. Now of course money has been cheap so there is an argument that due diligence is not as important in many of these investments...but I am curious about returns in VC funds for the past 5 years and going forward. Most of the IPOs that I can recall have been pretty lackluster and the underlying businesses/economic models are pretty lackluster. Everyone was sold on XYZ being the next Google but that has not shaped up to be the truth.
I am not arguing that VC should not exist, same as Hedge Funds. I do think the industry is in a bad spot with how many poor investments were made. This easy money has spawned an entire industry of under performing startups with stellar employee benefits.
I came in expecting click bait and was pleasantly surprised.
This is brilliant.
The most classical example I can think of is Juicero (remember that one?) - it's not rocket science to figure out it that as an investor, it's not very clever to put your money there.
I wonder why VCs and stuff make these dumb decisions, that even without any sort of "market research" it's obvious it is pure BS, and yet there seems to be no shortage of idiotic ideas getting funding.
The VC mode of thinking becomes a lot clearer when you realize that their returns are completely driven by moonshots. Something like 1% of the portfolio will drive 56% of the returns. As a result:
(1) It costs them nearly nothing if a startup goes to 0. Most of their portfolio will go to 0. (2) Conversely, it will cost them a ton if they miss a potential moonshot. Even if the idea sounds dumb on face, if there's a chance it becomes big, the VC needs to be in it in order to survive. (3) There's reputational risk at play for the individual VC investor. Every VC will have a low hit rate, so they're not worried about looking dumb losing money on some startup going to 0. What they are worried about is being known as the person who passed on the next Airbnb despite getting a look. (4) Later stage VC funding becomes an access game — there's more capital than good ideas, and so these companies can have their pick of the litter. This means, as a VC, you need to prioritize being founder friendly and having a pre-existing relationship with a company. As such, you'll see VCs throw in $1m to $10m checks without much though, with the hope that if the company every does scale, they'll be able to write a sizable follow-on.
It's weird to think about if you're used to public markets, where hit rate matters a lot more and diligence is centered on "why should I invest". In VC-land, the burden of proof is flipped.
You'd think that the most truthful content is going to win the public. But the reality is that the most viral content wins. A lot of software development "best practices" are popular not because they are producing value (their value is often negative), but because they make us feel good.
Very similar to religions, it's not necessarily the most utilitarian religions that are dominating the world. It's the most viral ones.
However, consider that the 99% who don't contribute on Reddit, may be contributing elsewhere.
I never post on Reddit, only browse. But I comment here.
Maybe that's the case with most people. That the majority contribute somewhere, but just not all in the same place.
This would invalidate the hypothesis that the internet is written by insane people. It's just that any one site only includes 1% of the people, evenly distributed across all the sites.
Although I'm definitely not one of those, plenty of the smartest people out there are posters. Posting is universal.
I mean... tbf: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=alankay
So caveat lector...
Also... it's unclear how most of this is specific to startups. All of these things apply to other endeavors, big and small, whether corporate, not-for-profit, or governmental.
If you were the only person on the planet, then yes.
But X and Y still have option value. You can sell them our service them to others.
You can keep them, and continue looking for Z.
But X and Y are not valueless. You are just trying to take them in a direction (needing Z) that isn't deploying that value (until you get Z).