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I think I feel dumber for reading this. (The referenced paper by Ousterhout is quite good though, and doesn’t confuse the terminology. Maybe that one’s what HN should link and discuss.)

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To someone only weakly aware in this area, can you explain what is wrong with the statement? From a cursory view, these protocols indeed seem to normally carry the mentioned payloads.

It's not like HTTP stops working if you choose to send something besides HTML. Most of its features still work and make sense for JSON payloads and the usual building blocks still work (eg HTTPS, load balancers, proxies, status codes, redirects...)

There are a few bits that don't make sense eg cookies where the server sends something and the client is expected to remember it but they can just be ignored.

Exactly. The HTTP standard doesn't really mention HTML, except tangentially in examples. And regarding cookies, there are even people who use cookies in RPC contexts, but this is rather rare, and as you said, entirely optional.

Also, as a minor point, even when browsing the web, a minority of the actual requests deliver HTML -- most of them are for various kinds of media referenced by the HTML document.

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