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Take edge with it, please and thank you

What's wrong with Edge. Been pleasantly surprised by it myself.

Glad it is working out for you! I already have a browser of choice and would prefer my OS not make those decisions for me.

A web browser is expected and included in every modern desktop and mobile OS I can think of. What is different about Safari on Apple OSes, Chrome on Android and Chromebooks, or Firefox on Linux distros?

At least on Windows it is trivially easy to use a different browser and set it as the default.

> and set it as the default.

For a while...

The difference is that Microsoft doesn’t just give you Edge as the default, they actively try to get you to switch to Edge if you’re using something else, with random notifications, pop-ups in Settings, making it harder to switch to other browsers, making browser links opened by the OS (i.e. search bar, help) open in Edge, etc…

> At least on Windows it is trivially easy to use a different browser and set it as the default.

No, it's not. On 11 at least, any link that is part of the OS (or at least modern parts of it) will still forcibly open Edge, including anything you search in the start menu. It's not possible to change this without third party software.

It's a browser, not a religion, try and keep some perspective here.

I'd also prefer my OS not choose a religion for me either :)

Good thing it does neither!

I think Edge is a better Chrome than Chrome. At least it can show vertical tabs and groups in a way much more easy to understand.

They keep on trying to force it on people.

The harder they try, the more "NO. FUCK OFF" I get. :/

Edge is a great browser, (much better than Chrome), but Microsoft keeps trying to force it onto people, so they start hating it, and rightfully so. If Microsoft wasn’t trying to force it onto people, it would probably be more popular

Edge was absolutely great. I even recommended it at some point.

Then they started packing more features into it than a shareware application in the 2000s. They even went so far as to bundle code that replaces the checkout form in web shops (breaking some of them, of course). Their disgusting methods to force people to use Edge also turned me off. Something good doesn't need its user base to be forced to use it.

It's a real tragedy. Edgium had some great features and Super Duper Secure mode is the obvious next step in defence in depth for browsers. I just can't trust it anymore.

Have you been able to configure it so it doesn't have an enormous Bing search bar in your new tab page? I know you can change search providers, but the new tab page seems to be hardcoded to Bing with no way to change it.

(No, using a plugin/extension to do this doesn't count, IMO.)

How will new users install Firefox or Chromeium without any browser at all? Someone going to train them in WinGet?

I'd actually say, while we're at it, let's throw out Chrome and Firefox too. I'd add Safari to the list but I think that's taken care of itself.

I've been doing Web applications longer than I'd guess your typical HN commenter has been alive. The main conclusion I have come to is that the Web is a great platform for sharing documents, and a lousy platform for applications.

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