This morning I tried to turn it on, and the car immediately veered left into the oncoming lane on a straight, 2 lane road. Fortunately, there were no other vehicles nearby.
I immediately turned it off in the settings, and have no intention of re-enabling.
It doesn't because Tesla's FSD model is just a rules engine with an RGB camera. There's not "purpose" to any hallucination. It would just be a misread of sensors and input.
Tesla's FSD just doesn't work. The model is not sentient. It's not even a Transformer (in both the machine learning and Hasbro sense).
I dont think its true? They use convolutional networks for image recognition and those things can certainly halucinate - e.g. detecting things that are not there.
https://twitter.com/maxhkw/status/1373063086282739715?s=52&t...
But of course, as you say, that system does not consume actual raw (camera) sensor data, instead there are lots of intermediate networks that turn the camera images (and other sensors) into red lights, lane curvatures, objects, ... and those are all very vulnerable to making up things that aren't there or not seeing what is plain to see, with no one quite able to explain why.
Or maybe when I get a bug report today I’m going to tell them the software is just hallucinating.
Before this morning, I would be in exactly your shoes in terms of "this is pretty cool, I'm going to keep using it"
TL;DR: Controller drift class action lawsuit filed by parents thrown out, because their children were the actual "affected class". Refiled with the children as the class and thrown out again, this time because of an arbitration clause in the EULA their parents would have had to agree with.
Lawyers and EULAs are crazy.
There might be precedent to even removing the feature since FSD almost is vaporware and has no release date. https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/ps3-other-os-settlement-cla...
You have to basically drive like a grandpa for a few months to even be eligible. They give you a driving score, and if you take all the fun out of driving a Tesla, then you might become eligible for FSD Beta.
I spent months trying, and never got my driving score to the point of qualifying for FSD Beta. I think you need to have of a score of 98 or 99 (and I was in the 70s).
[1] The Beta is free (or rather, only available) if you have regular FSD. Regular FSD costs $15,000.
Regular FSD, otoh, is really not that impressive. Especially in comparison to Enhanced Autopilot. The extra value add is minimal.
Enhanced Autopilot already has all the gimmicky features you might want to use to show off to people (like Smart Summon, Autopark, etc), and it only costs $6,000.
Yes, you have to pay $15k just to apply to the beta program, and you still may not get accepted into the program.
The safety score check stuff is largely gone away today - anyone who pays 200 bucks can click the beta opt in and get it almost straight away now, there is ~zero risk of not getting the beta if you really want it, live in US or Canada, and are prepared to pay.
> https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscription...
Does this recall mean that FSD Beta won't be as widely & publicly available to anyone with FSD anymore?
FWIW, NHTSA "recalls" are often OTA software updates nowadays rather than something the vehicle or feature has to be taken off road for to fix or update. The NHTSA legislation from the 60s was drafted when cars didn't have software and any fix/"recall" likely required "recalling" the car to a shop for a mechanic to perform the change.
That's a significant amount of cash for features that I would likely never use.
Sadly, it does shut itself off as soon as you're off a highway however. (That's where FSD would hypothetically come in, once the beta is ready, with "Autosteer on city streets").
In terms of value for money:
- I'd say Auto Lane Change is worth $1,500.
- Navigate on Autopilot is worth another $1,500.
- Autopark is worth $1,000.
- Smart Summon is worth $5,00
Throw in $1,500 as a profit margin (or Elon tax), so he can burn some dinosaurs for his private jet flights, the $6,000 Enhanced Autopilot price point makes sense.
FSD, otoh, is absolutely not worth it.
You shouldn't be daydreaming on Navigate on Autopilot. Its only Level 2, you're supposed to be ready take the wheel in a second or two. You're supposed to still be actively paying attention to the road, constantly.
What does that work out to, in terms of dollars per lane change for the duration of ownership? Would you feel the same if you were feeding dollar bills into a feeder each time you changed lanes? Quarters?
Auto lane change is the only feature I value out of EAP / FSD subscription and I can't justify $200/month because it works out to multiple dollars per lane change.
How often do you use this and how well does it work?
I understand the simpler lane keeping system is okay, but I don’t want to trust any system like this from Tesla given their track record with FSD.
This is the kind of feature I will use when the car and software in question has been battle tested for *years* with objectively excellent results.