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This is wild. I thought I was about to read a critique coming from a less leftist point of view, as the NYT is already fairly far left. It’s counter productive for groups that are directionally after the same goals to vilify each other. Anecdotally the left seems to be a worse perpetrator of this behavior. I suspect this is happening because the far left is so detached from the average American that the only group that will even entertain their argument have to have neighboring political views.

This letter is criticizing bad journalism. Treatment of sources, omitting of facts etc. It also calls on ignoring established science and calling old treatments "new treatment" to make them sound more scary.

So, it is pretty difficult to figure put what you mean by "this behavior" and where "being in touch with average American" is supposed to be relevant. Being in touch with average American is specifically not relevant at all.

The NYT is in no way far left. It's a fairly centrist, vaguely middle-right publication. They have the occasional leftist essay, but far more often their op-eds are very strangely right-wing.

I say strangely, because it's not very typical, afaict, but just occasionally someone feels the need to throw something really bizarre out there. Which is why there's several variations on things like the "NYT pitchbot" out there, making fun of how bizarre those are.

NYT is firmly on the left side. This is the publication that brought us the 1619 Project.

That does not imply firmly left. That is perfectly consistent with centrist.

That far right went bonkers over that project does not mean the project was far left one.

The 1619 Project is so insanely partisan and divorced from reality, that even the Trotskyist publication World Socialist Web Site has correctly denounced it as nonsense, and published some very high-quality rebuttals.

https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/1619

>The NYT is in no way far left. It's a fairly centrist, vaguely middle-right publication. They have the occasional leftist essay, but far more often their op-eds are very strangely right-wing.

This comment is so false and divorced from reality it may be some Russian/Chinese/etc. disinformation campaign: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

I don't know what this site is or why it should be treated as authoritative, but putting Jacobin and NYT Opinion on the same plane seems pretty divorced from reality.

I wouldn't say so. They're both definitely center-left, though they may not be to the same extremes. Here's the creds on AllSides: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllSides

NYT is center-left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times

Jacobian is further left than that: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/jacobin-media-bias

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