So you want to hurt people not yet convicted because why? That is the most American thing I've read today.
Skipping and whistling my way to Omelas.
I'm glad the court system and laws exist to prevent people like you from doing exactly such barbaric lawless retribution and ugliness on fellow human beings.
Personally I much more fear people like you that openly advocate for such cruelty than people that steal others money. Both are evil, both fell the law should be ignored when it suits their needs, but your style has historically resulted in vastly larger harm to humanity. I expect you don't see this.
The legal system, as it currently exists, enables and is sometimes the cause of such "barbaric lawless retribution," actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sandra_Bland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Darren_Rainey
Correcting your strawman of my argument: if a rich and influential person suffering because of the corrupt and cruel nature of the current system results in that system changing to be less cruel and corrupt, particularly towards people who are not rich and influential, then please, let them suffer. In the interim, I will assume that your insistence on perpetuating this system, in the face of its cruelty towards thousands of innocents, in the interest of saving one privileged criminal, comes from either a place of deep ignorance or deep bigotry (implicit or otherwise). In either case, I find myself absolved of any need to give your mistaken opinion any further attention.
And I disagree directly with what you're saying anyway, because by lowering the standards for the rich we might actually see a push by influential people to raise the standards for everyone.
I was pointing out why lowering the standards for the rich would likely lead to better standards for everyone because we live in a bifurcated society. It would be nice if we didn't, but we do.
I disagree that the rich should be treated better than the poor and advocate for helping the masses, not the elite. If making the elite suffer helps the masses then I'm all for it.
I was responding to this part of that comment, meaning I agree it would be better to have the same high standards for everyone. But that's ideally, the question is how do we get there?
If we can get there without lowering standards for the rich I'm all for it. I'm not advocating for the correct solution to this because I don't know what it is. I was only responding to what you said:
> No, but advocating for the system to deliberately abuse other people to make a point isn't doing anything to correct the injustice; rather, it's (marginally) worsening it.
By pointing out that I disagree, I think it would actually make the system better overall when you consider compounding effects.