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The reason the Indian government is afraid is because they know the secular Southern India will secede if they found out they're ruled by a religious North Indian madman who killed 750-2000 Muslims. Before this documentary the 2002 Gujarat events were largely brushed aside as ordinary 3rd world sectarian violence but the BBC documentary shows that Modi personally orchestrated the whole thing.

The complete balkanization of India is about to happen and I don't think the rest of the world will be able to cope with the number of refugees.

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> The reason the Indian government is afraid is because they know the secular Southern India will secede if they found out they're ruled by a religious North Indian madman who killed 750-2000 Muslims

I think the secular south would've been able to come to that conclusion before now; I already thought of Modi as a religious nut who was (at very least) highly complicit in the Gujarat violence. I'm a bit skeptical that this BBC documentary will be what breaks up india.

Lmao .. secular southern India - that’s a generalization that covers a population similar to all of America - the south is anti modi but for reasons completely unrelated to secularism .. also secession is such a fringe idea that it would make the secession movements in the USA look mainstream ..

source : me an Indian citizen who grew up in one of the southern states.

> The reason the Indian government is afraid is because they know the secular Southern India will secede if they found out they're ruled by a religious North Indian madman who killed 750-2000 Muslims.

This is a bizarre characterization of the awareness of the situation in India. Modi was blamed for the riots right from the beginning by every politician outside his alliance, including in South India. Modi's alleged guilt has been paraded before the voters in every election, big & small, national or local, since 2002. It has been one of the primary national political issues in India ever since, including a very well publicized court case that made its way through the Supreme Court. Even if it was a sham trial, it's bizarre to suggest that people in South India were somehow unaware of Modi's alleged guilt - till this documentary.

You’re effectively saying a civil war is about to erupt?

Complete balkanization of India? You don't know what you are talking about do you?

Until the British arrived the subcontinent was a mishmash of thousands of fiefdoms that were at each other's throat. That looks balkanization to me.

You need to read a little more history then! India's history goes much further than that. Read up on The Maurya Empire

The Maurya Empire? Yeah right. You should thank the British for the Maurya empire. The so-called Maurya Empire was cooked up by a pseudo historian by the name of James Prinsep to instill a sense of one people for political purpose. The British at the time assumed the British empire in South Asia was forever and it was hard to rule a place when the people practically hate each other historically. This Maurya Empire thing is a way for the British to create some glue for their subjects. Called it a British duplicity if you will.

Pseudo Historian so good that he cooked up all the ancient texts, ashoka pillar, coinage, stupa, architectural remains, etc right?

Anyways! Can you cite a non-pseudo source for you claims?

Yeah, a pillar here and a coin dug up there and you can weave a whole story. It this is true I would assume the British would learn this history from the native people in the subcontinent instead of the other way. It would be like the Europeans have never heard of the Roman Empire or Julius Caesar until they learned it from Japan.

Like i said, any credible source for what you are claiming?

Surely the British arrived in India well after 0 AD. Not sure how an empire that disolved long before then would matter to what the British saw when they first reached India.

I'm just citing one example from the many. India as an entity has been dissolved and established multiples times in the history. British came at the weak period of India, essentially during a long civil war that was going on across the whole subcontinent.

"India as an entity has been dissolved and established multiples times in the history."

I found it interesting that Indians for some reason like to insist on this absurdity. There must be some benefits or advantages of making such claim.

If you keep calling historical facts as absurdity then there's nothing to debate here

At that time Britain was a mishmash of fiefdoms that were at each other's throat.

What did Vajpayee and Congress do during https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_massacre

Oh boy! Secular south ? Clearly you have never been to india. Secession is not a possibility in fever dream. South is even more religious and conservative than north. Many actually like modi. my friend you are viewing india from a periscope whose view is too filled with bias. India is fine.

I near fell off my chair laughing at the complete confidence with which he called the south secular .. lol ..

Also the riots happened more than two decades ago and most people don’t give a shit - you know how I know this - modi was a chief minister at the time of the riots and then went on to be the prime minister and is in his third term as prime minister .. you think people who didn’t give a shit back then are suddenly gonna rise up against a politician who is as popular as modi ..

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