it doesn't take a lot of effort to discover that plenty of power-structures and political regimes around the world aside from the United States eventually simplify down to basic adversarialism.
It goes from 'RED/BLUE' all the way to 'GreatLeader/Dictator', but the United States doesn't have 'us versus them' to ourselves.
But also, since a Republican was in charge when COVID became a problem, it would make more sense to have the then-opposition do the investigation, right? Let’s not ask people who have an incentive to hide uncomfortable failures to investigate!
Why is memory so short in politics? The question you should ask instead is why do they suddenly care?
Seems to be how both sides reason over there. Exhausting but entertaining to follow. I'm leftist (real "hang the bankers" kind of left not Teslas and Iphones left) and even to me the Republicans often seem like the reasonable bunch in the gang, and that says a lot...
Both sides would benefit from some serious self-examination.
What I wonder is how laying the blame on some country or other would change other peoples' calculations on those decisions.
My conclusions by looking at the facts are very sinister. If I told you you were going to vaccinate 5-year olds with new tech for flu-like symptoms 5 years ago you'd call me crazy. But here we are, and you're asking me about masks.
Masks are the last thing on my mind, but that doesn't mean I don't wash my hands and run around coughing on old people. I care about some people answering difficult questions and getting jail time, but we'll see their friends asking fluffy cute questions.
The greatest trick they pulled was to politisize it and get normal people fighting eachother over facemasks while they're swimming in profits.
The problem is we really don't know what effects mRNA can have and anyone who claims they do are lying. So why was it pushed so hard?
Again, I'm far from an expert, but I've been told that RNA vaccines have been studied for a couple decades now, but the recent vaccines were the first widespread use. But won't a virus deliver several orders of magnitude more RNA to you anyway? Speaking for myself, I've personally known many people including myself who have gotten a variety of vaccines with zero long term consequences, though I did have one friend who gets knocked on his ass for a day or two by them. It's those that chose to forgo the vaccine who have suffered life altering consequences as a result. I actually was talking to a friend yesterday who's thinking about applying for disability since he's tried several times to return to his job as a waiter and been too weak to do the job.
Of course, new technologies will always have the risk of novel effects I suppose. Frankly if I had kids, I'd be more concerned about their constant attachment to phones/tablets and social media like Tiktok or the like. It's hard for me to tell if that's just me getting old and grumpy about technology or if these are in fact new and novel risks, but it's impossible not to notice all the children being carted around with their faces essentially attached to some screen or other.
But don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone who got the shot, I'm questioning those in power who had the same data I did but still claimed it was so necessary for everyone and their mother to get vaccinated or the world would go to shit.
If you looked at the numbers it was just a bad flu season. They definitely knew because I knew, from their own official data. And to my knowledge no other country than the US is pushing it to kids below 12.
But I've let it go, it's no longer a thing and I was lucky enough to dodge any mandates. This thread started with me pointing out the revisionism in claiming democrats are the right people to get to the bottom of the origin. I'm not getting into the details of if/when mRNA started testing and roll-outs.
I had not had occasion to look into it, but the US CDC recommends flu shots starting at 6 months. From a quick search, it looks like EU guidelines differ a bit but some do encourage that children and the elderly get it. To me it was always just one of those things responsible members of society do - pay for your car registration, go to the dentist, keep your area clean, get your shots, etc... I'm far from 100% on all that stuff, but the vaccines never struck me as being all that far out of line - maintaining my car is more expense and trouble than that at least, and I hate going to the dentist. But I fail to see how my flu vaccination needs would change if it turned out that the flu had been somehow a creation of a foreign nation.
I don't know who "the right people" are to get to the bottom of the origin of Covid, but if it is Republicans, then I doubt their motives are for a blameless post-mortem style investigation that ends with a list of plausible recommendations for improvements in response to future pandemics. That skepticism was were I got started.
Dazsak himself even mentioned his conflicting interest when he was appointed by the WHO to investigate if his own lab was the source of the leak. And the democrats did everything they could to suppress this and calling anyone curious a conspiracy theorists. All because the bad evil Republicans made the claims first. The same conspiracies that are now pretty mainstream and many people backing down from earlier claims.
Try to be less partisan and get to the bottom of the truth. My conclusions as I mentioned are sinister, and very ugly. And the entire world media dancing to the same tune just reinforces that. I don't want to believe this but it's the only explanation I see, I don't believe they're incompetent, they're evil...
For many it was just the right-thing-to-do™ (how many times has that been used throughout history), but those pulling the strings are different. And they're not partisan, they play both sides.
We all want to avoid it but how long are we going to stay occupied fighting over bullshit reasons while some live like gods on everyone's expense without even a slap on the wrist?
Oh this dictator likes Putin to much we have to replace him with this other guy. For centuries it's been like this. Is it ever going to change? Probably not, one can hope though.
If you're asking me what you can do today? Put higher standards on truth from your allies than your enemies is a good first step. A lot of people today just regurgitate whatever is the topic of the month making the exact same points never questioning the source.
Orange man bad, Biden is senile, bla bla bla. You're the most powerful nation in the world start acting like it instead of bullying any country that opposes your truth into submission.
What you can do regarding covid is ask "how does this help me and society?" instead of just rolling up your sleeve when someone asks you. You need to start asking questions, all the time. They don't have your interests in mind. Neither does my own government so I'm not acting like we're any better.
Demand answers. Why was Fauci smirking behind Trump on press meetings knowing full well that the US was funding research on covid virues in fucking Wuhan? Textbook James Bond villain. How people are not outraged is a mystery.
He's the biggest reason your grandmother was even at risk and you go out of your way to ignore it because "Republicans" I assume? I don't know. I will never understand people.
We're going in circles and I'm done spoon-feeding you. Best of luck.
I remember when the only ones actually asking questions and not getting vaccinated were blamed to be "stupid republicans" and "conspiracy theorists".
You're so polarized over there my fucked up country seems like heaven in comparison. We've always been at war with Eurasia, right?
The Republicans never had a sane response to Covid; their "questions" were all racist as fuck; their vaccine skepticism is still killing people; they're why we can't mask up and reduce the spread.
The Democrats have decided that the very young, the very old, the weak, and the disabled are collateral damage. Joke's on them: Long COVID doesn't discriminate!
The Republicans on that committee are child sex traffickers and virulent antisemites. Their agenda is to shut down the United States government. They don't care about the origins of COVID.
My favorite CNN article on the topic from Januar 2020, before COVID19 spread worldwide: "Coronavirus task force another example of Trump administration's lack of diversity" <https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/politics/donald-trump-coronav...>