Inflation rose more than expected, up 6.4% from a year ago
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However the CPI metrics is still reporting shelter inflation at 8.0% YoY and a 9.6% annualized rate MoM. Within the next few months we should see a very notable decline in the shelter component of inflation as it heads towards zero. The reality is because of this lagginess, "true inflation" this time last year was probably closer to 12%+, and as of the last few months is probably closer to 3%.
I would agree that a good forecast of inflation would incorporate what is happening with leases now, but I would disagree that this means anything for "true inflation".
The prices that we have today, that so many already can't afford, aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
But I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Not sure how this ends.
Jobs = bad
Says the same clowns who printed in excess of 40% of all dollars in existence within the last few years.
All that liquidity is still in their hands today, but those being punished are the poor folks who did nothing wrong.
The very same recession they are now trying to cause to get inflation under control, just that now there is way more debt and the recession will be much worse. As a side benefit this recession is expected so the oligarchs can go into cash and buy everything up for 30% less.
edit: I shouldn't talk, my central bank is the ECB which is much worse and much slower. We're just lucky the fed is the world's central bank so we benefit from their actions a little.
It's not like a year ago when inflation was at 8.5% and the Fed was still at zero. That was a very volatile combination.
Likely, the realistic number is much higher and has been for a while. Anecdotally, people only care about the incremental direction of their quality of life - is it going up or going down? The trend for that speaks for itself.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/white-house-outlines-plan-...
Tough situation, it should be interesting how this spring shakes out in the real-estate market.
I think the real estate lobby has too much voice up here.
Is this the correct way to refer to inflation percentage vs. last year?
On the graph, it shows that inflation was 7.5% in Jan 2022. The wording makes it sound like it's now 7.5% + 6.4% = 13.9%.
In general it's not very informative to talk about a change in the derivative ("inflation rose"). But if you did, you'd have to talk about an immediate delta and not a YoY. So in fact, the headline is simply incorrect. CPI inflation was 6.5% in December. So in fact "inflation is dropping".
But that doesn't get clicks.
Compared to December, the CPI rose 0.5%, the most in three months, mostly due to the higher cost of shelter, food, gasoline, and natural gas.
And you think inflation is dropping?
Also, if you look at the annual inflation rate, well;
2014 - 0.8% (!)
2015 - 0.7 (!)
2016 - 2.1
2017 - 2.1
2018 - 1.9
2019 - 2.3%
2020 - 1.4% (!)
2021 - 7%
2022 - 6.5%
2023 (so far) - 6.4%
So, this means the FED will raise rates, by a lot. Because they cannot keep a 6.4% inflation rate going. And we have not had a business climate with inflation this hiugh for years. You can pretend like things are fine, but they are not.
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch...
Now, you more commonly see YoY numbers cited because annualizing MoM numbers results in a lot of volatility. Seasonally adjusted MoM numbers are actually what the CPI report mentions first [1].
If you look at macroeconomic models, the inflation variable is typically defined as a one period change in prices (or potentially instantaneous, for continuous time models) as that makes the math easier to work with.
If a business has a 3% profit margin, would you expect them to have a 2% profit margin 5 years from now, and 1% profit margin 10 years from now, and 0.1% profit margin x years from now?
If anything, cost of employing is going down in tech, going up in the service industry
Workers on the minimum wage should typically get cost-of-living adjustments, because they get a wage and not a real salary.
This is why this is called the minimum wage. They don't get money based on their contribution to the company, but just the amount of money to cover costs, and to be able to show up at work and be healthy the next day. So their wage should increase with inflation.
In some country, the minimum wage is calculated on the minimum amount of money that anyone should spend to keep the economy running. It's a bit more than the amount to still be alive the next day, but the same logic and the adjustment would still apply.
Engineers (which seem to make the bulk of the reader in HN) are usually paid on a market value basis. You negotiate your salary based on your skills, not the price of commodities ! (You can't reasonably complain to HR about the rising price of eggs when you get more than twice the minimum wage).
If you want a raise, get better skills and a better job ! Because you can afford that car even with the inflation. If your market value changes, your salary will also change.
But there is no direct link with inflation.
For example, inflation soars, but layoffs are happening in Cali, so salaries don't go stonk.
EDIT : check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage#Economic_models ! In a liberal perspective (with supply and demand and stuff. I don't like it, but it's a spherical cow), the rising minimum wage doesn't impact the equilibrium, it's just a new line. So whoever was on a equilibrium much above the minimum wage won't be affected ! Only the least paid jobs will be adjusted for inflation (when the minimum wage is over the equilibrium, or close to it)
Salaries are denominated in USD - so a decrease in the value of USD is less than it was. Unless your value to the company also decreases with inflation, then salary should be renegotiated.
Management capitalizes on the difference between the value that is created and how much you're paid. (according to yet another liberal perspective that I don't like). So why would they increase your wage, if other companies are doing layoffs ?
>then salary should be renegotiated.
Yes, but from your perspective, the perspective of unions (or from a Trotskyist perspective where workers create value and collectively decide to share it). Not HR's
I had the "opportunity" to graduate in times when more layoffs were happening than nowadays (covid). And I can tell you how these companies that still hired were accepting the cheapest applicants, instead of sharing the value they would create (I was even hired bellow the minimum wage, because the local government was promoting contracts of 'apprenticeships' as a loophole to not pay engineers who were desperate for a first experience)
I can also tell you how fast I changed jobs and had a dirac of better pay, despite a continuously increasing productivity, just because the job market changed overnight.
So HR doesn't care about your value. They check your market value, and what you would bring to the company for that market value (the difference being their loss or their profits)
They don't pay you because they like you, nor because they like engineering. They need their work to be done, in an efficient and reasonably cheap manner ! (and they would happily pay you a minimum wage or bellow, if that were your market value)
Again, spherical cow !
Right - any employer is going to pay as little as they think they can get away with. As an employee, you have to convince them of two things: that you can make more elsewhere, and that you provide more value to them than your labor costs.
> Yes, but from your perspective, the perspective of unions (or from a Trotskyist perspective where workers create value and collectively decide to share it). Not HR's
Well... at least in the environment that I'm operating in (the US), employment is an arrangement at the discretion of either party. I'm saying that significant inflation is justification for the employee to request modification.
> I had the "opportunity" to graduate in times when more layoffs were happening than nowadays (covid). And I can tell you how these companies that still hired were accepting the cheapest applicants, instead of sharing the value they would create (I was even hired bellow the minimum wage, because the local government was promoting contracts of 'apprenticeships' as a loophole to not pay engineers who were desperate for a first experience)
I'm almost 40, and have been in tech in some form for almost two decades. From my perspective the labor market is cyclical.
The current state isn't nearly as bad as it would appear based on my observations. I'm still getting lots of recruiter spam, and my network is still sharing open positions privately - if anything, that avenue in particular has _increased_ since the pandemic. Yes, layoffs are happening, but companies are still hiring as well. That seems to be doubly true for more experienced engineers.
At the end of the day, everyone has to decide what they'll accept. I know that I would take less compensation to continue working where I am than I'd require if I were to be wooed away to another employer. I know the environment where I work now, and I believe in our "mission". A new employer would represent a significant additional risk to me, and additional compensation would be required to offset that.
> So HR doesn't care about your value. They check your market value, and what you would bring to the company for that market value (the difference being their loss or their profits)
I agree :)
The value I bring to the company is the _upper bound_ to what compensation I could reasonably ask for. My cost to the company is a function of my total compensation.
I don't expect to capture all of that. From my perspective, my employer is enabling me to convert my labor into real value. That service is itself valuable, as I don't have a way to do it on my own at the same rate.
I _do_ expect that inflation will mean that my employer will raise the cost of our product over time - because money is worth less. Some of that increase can be passed on to me, and to other employees that are willing and able to ask for it.
> They don't pay you because they like you, nor because they like engineering. They need their work to be done, in an efficient and reasonably cheap manner ! (and they would happily pay you a minimum wage or bellow, if that were your market value)
Agreed, and I have no issues with that. That's how I _want_ it to work!
I wouldn't be willing to work for less than about 2/3 of what I'm making today, because that's what I can earn completely on my own. Anything over that means employment is the more profitable option for me. At that point, it's a matter of asking:
* am I producing more value for the company than I cost?
* am I able to find a more acceptable arrangement elsewhere?So is it rising or cooling? Can the central banks ease rate increases? Or does the WSJ just hope and pray that the Fed will stop, just please make it stop?
It rose. Period. There is more inflation. That is what the .5% increase means. And yes, you are right, the WSJ just wants it to stop. Or shoudl I say Rupert Murdoch wants it to stop.
News Corp to cut 1,250 jobs after missing second-quarter estimates https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/09/news-corp-job-...
The fed is expected to go up to 5.25 and most of the market still expect that.
Both are true, too
Inflation cooled, because Year over year in January is 6.4%, while in December it was 6.5% and in November it was 7.1%. So it has a downward trend
Inflation was 0.5% month over month in January, which was higher than the market expected 0.4%
The overall story is that inflation seems to be slowing down, but the market seems to think that the slowdown will happen quicker than it actually is, possibly making the Fed raise rates
Additionally the entire system of bureaucrats and politicians involved into calculating inflation have no incentive to accurately report inflation.
They want to save on pensions, social security entitlements and wages. The bankers and economists want to make their fund performance look better in real terms by downplaying inflation.
Keeping this in mind, I suspect inflation as has been somewhere around the S&P500 returns each year, but the people in power obviously benefit from linking wages to a cooked inflation number while they largely keep their money's value through investments.
Past 7 months inflation is 3.25% annualized, while fed funds rate is expected to be 4.75% next month. We're seeing high interest now for inflation that was 8 - 16 months ago.
I was a series 7 broker. There are patterns in the market.
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/common-intra-day-stock-marke...
> The market knows the new information from opening.
Dow is down 400. Guess not!
There is no way inflation will be reduced until the FED rate is well above 7%.
If you thought you were hearing about a lot of lay off the last month, just wait. People do not have money, and when they do not have money they cut spending.
This is frankly well inline with what most analysts thought was going to happen.
Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for respective increases of 0.4% and 6.2%. So it was not "within expectations". And CORE CPI is even more improtant it increased 0.4% monthly and 5.6% from a year ago, against respective estimates of 0.3% and 5.5%.
"While price increases had been abating in recent months, January’s data shows that inflation is still a force in a U.S. economy in danger of slipping into recession this year."
ANNNNNDD....they changed the weighting.
"January’s CPI report will take some time to analyze, as the BLS changed its methodology in how it reports the index. Some components, such as shelter, were given higher weightings, while others, such as food and energy now have slightly less influence."
Food and energy? Less influence? Housing prices, which are slowing, giving more weight? Hmmmm.....
6.4 is just not a weird number and won’t change any market expectations.