India’s government wants total control of the internet
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I was astonished a foreign entity can stop the world watching something if they don't like it, it wasn't just geo blocked it was removed off YouTube.
Simple as that really. The government of Tuvalu making a similar request probably would have been politely ignored.
They may even require that all compute happen locally. And of course that all content and so on meet local regulations. Sort of like what we see with other telecommunication, be it T-mobile or other. Sure, they operate in many countries, but they have local staff and follow local rules.
In that case it wouldn't matter how many intermediary entities are there between HQ and local operations.
And Chinese entrepreneurs just kind of said, "SWEET!", then swept in with their own startups offering those services.
I'd imagine there are a lot of Indians, even here in the US, that would make a headlong rush back to India to start up web service companies if our companies said we won't service India any longer.
And from what I understand Youtube isn't profitable by itself.
I don’t have specific estimates I can link to, but I’ve seen statements like this fairly regularly: There are more questions around YouTube’s profitability, but he said the general view was that it was “modestly profitable but not dramatically so.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/technology/youtube-financ...
Of course when Google actually disclosed what percentage of their revenue came from YouTube it was well below the 20% suggested in that piece.
What is 'that wildly profitable estimate' then?
"Later today, I have the honor of meeting with His Excellency Prime Minister Modi to discuss how we are supporting small businesses and start-ups, investing in cybersecurity, providing education and skills training, applying AI in sectors like agriculture and healthcare, and other priorities."
A message from our CEO: https://archive.is/t3f7R / https://blog.google/inside-google/message-ceo/optimism-india...
S01E02: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F55992F922B9A0E49C09E198835F0F06EE07635B&dn=India%20The%20Modi%20Question%20S01E02%201080p%20HDTV%20H264-DARKFLiX&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2780%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2730%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce
Still seems pretty available here. =)
Everyone's anti-bittorrenting until some asshole with more power but even more insecurity comes along and refuses to be legitimately criticized or questioned.
https://peertube.tv/search?search=The+Modi+Question+&searchT...
I expect the high road from my country's communications sector on freedom of speech, and even though RT has always sucked, this behavior is distasteful.
Obviously the war is an abomination, but I'd prefer that in the interim, "platform" corporations stay the hell out of the 4D-chess.
What makes you think those in power won't abuse them as early and often as possible?
Stories like that always make me think that this is always some kind of a political play on the side of western media platforms, likely coming from ex-spooks they like to hire so much. Especially judging by how e.g. in Russia, YouTube has learned to play nice over time and generally doesn't act like it's "delete everywhere or leave as is" kind of choice.
Everything beyond this is YouTube's own doing, really.
The original rush to remove the content was fueled by alot of publicity around the documentary.
Speak for yourself. As an Indian, I don't want the government telling me what I can't watch.
> investigated by various courts including the Supreme Court of India
The same Supreme Court also ruled that the 2G Scam did not happen. Would you like to acquire an ownership interest in the Bandra-Whorli Sea Link?
> Will BBC make a documentary about the many crimes the British did in India?
They did even in the face of backlash from British Nationalists: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/historians-accuse-bbc-new...
> taint his image, and even destabilize India
So, Modi is India and India is Modi?
https://archive.org/details/india.-the.-modi.-question.-s-01...
I suggest trying out wireguard, it's a ton easier to set up than openvpn or ipsec
I haven't been blocked on decently reputed hosting providers
It would be the first thing I'd get in a country with restricted internet :)
And I wonder if that BBC link works in India. Or if this one does: https://btdig.com/search?q=modi+question&order=2
BCC iPlayer doesn't work in any country other than the UK, so there isn't any question of it working in India. BTDigg is blocked in India, along with most piracy oriented websites, since long before the BBC documentary thing I think.
They presumably treat everything on the service exactly the same, because it would cost them money to do otherwise, and also because they probably don't want to pay for the bandwidth for foreign users. I suspect you probably have to have a UK TV license to watch it, too, which means they're charging for it in the UK. It'd actually be surprising if they had a way to treat different content differently, as opposed to the whole service being all or nothing.
They probably also have foreign stuff on there that they've bought only the UK rights for.
The BBC might correctly determine that, although it's a respected content producer, it doesn't have enough of that kind of power to make it work... except in the UK, where it already has a captive audience of "subscribers".
That applies at least until there is a universally adopted micropayment system, and maybe after that, too.
On edit, as a by-the-way: While it's true that everybody with a library is trying to do that, that only proves that it's trendy. Where are the numbers that say it's actually profitable?
As soon as a paid service goes subscription-only I drop it generally unless I really really need it.
I know not everyone is as anti-subscription as I am, but really, 100? Anything that pays "automatically" and auto-renews is something I have less control and visibility over so I'll do anything to avoid it.
Many of the best shows are co-produced with other broadcasters from countries, which means the BBC doesn't have the global rights for them. Also a decent proportion of BBC content is independently produced, which also means the BBC doesn't have the rights to that content. Lastly, the contracts for performing rights were often written before the concept of streaming, so you may have to go back to each credited performer and get the rights to distribute the show online. This has impacted DVD releases before, in one instance the BBC had to actually wait for someone to die before they could release a DVD box set, because one actor in just one episode refused to sign an updated agreement. So the list of content that's actually available is much smaller than you might think.
Maintaining a paid archive of "long tail" content has long been said to be the way forward. You can monetise that huge library of content from your past, right? Actually, it turns out that people don't actually watch that long tail. Outside the top, recent content, you'll get maybe a handful of people watching the archive each week. The cost of maintaining that archive online is non-zero and because the content is largely "cold", in terms of streaming, delivery of the archive costs you more than the popular content people are actually watching. And if you hadn't noticed, streaming services aren't renowned for being profitable in the first place.
Oh, and playback performance for cold assets is worse than fresh content. So watching an old episode of 'Only Fools and Horses' in Indonesia will have relatively poor streaming performance without putting in significant global investment. That investment being difficult to justify.
It's cheaper to syndicate the popular shows (old and new) to the other streaming services and see what gets watched.
Credentials: >20 years in broadcast/media technology, now working in a senior role at a major streaming service.
If every impactful documentary would be given away for free, there's no incentive for anyone to pay the company behind it to make more. Journalism is expensive and I don't think enough people would donate to a large corporation through Patreon.
I would love documentaries like these to be available without restriction, but when it comes to copyright and business model, it really does come close to Moanna or Eastenders.
Ummm.... Yes
I don't know what bridge you are trying to sell here. The Indian media is known as modia for a reason. NDTV, the only center channel had a hostile takeover. The TV media is a joke focused 74% on stoking Hindu Muslim conflict and attacking anyone who passes a negative comment about Modi.
What do you mean?
While I'm just as displeased with India censoring stuff for the rest of us, keep in mind that for most of the world, Google/YouTube is that censorious foreign entity.
The pogrom is an internal matter. A hitjob is external interference. /s
Btw, I watched the documentary and it actually covers the Supreme court judgement, so the responding accounts are actually spreading misinformation.
I find myself continually dumbfounded by the kind of reasoning and justifications, the supporters BJP come up with. Thousands of people killed and in many cases, even worse. Terming it an "internal matter" is being cruel beyond my comprehension.
> Btw, I watched the documentary and it actually covers the Supreme court judgement, so the responding accounts are actually spreading misinformation.
So you're implying the Supreme Court has a "Ministry of Truth" type of thing going on? How many judges transferred, maligned and were even killed for clean chits? Institutions ceased being autonomous and ethical a long time ago in India.
I'm sure that line on the map is really important to the victims...
Also, the one member of the indian bureaucracy who dared to question Modi's role in the riots - Sanjiv Bhatt - was sentenced to life in prison.
I am not sure what the poster here is insinuating with the claim that the case was tried under a different government. In no reasonable democracy are the courts swayed by politics.
Court judgements are made by humans and humans err. This is not the binary you are making it out to be. Indian courts are hamstrung by the rest of the Indian legal system and are routinely used to silence dissent and harass the small fry.
All judicial appointments need to be approved by the government. Retired judges get plum political appointments including to the Rajya Sabha.
The Centre refused to appoint Saurabh Kirpal because he is openly gay. This isn't some wild conjecture, this is the official government position: https://www.barandbench.com/news/law-ministry-says-saurabh-k...
Maybe in movies.
India has a robust sphere of public debate and draconian laws and acts of discrimination by the government are regularly criticised. In more cases than not the government embarrasses itself by its clumsy use of power to restrict opposition, like in the case of the BBC documentary which did not uncover anything new.
Constant vigilance is required. I am not a BJP supporter, but I don't think the intent of the BJP is to suppress debate. They seek legitimacy. BJP is clearly toning down its more radical elements and is getting more mature judging by the way it allowed the Bharat Jodo Yatra (Join India Campaign) and understands that a robust opposition is in national interest.
I am more hopeful than this article.
I mean, sure, yeah, we're not North Korea yet. And is that the bar we are setting for the "World's largest democracy?"
Last time I checked India was still a democracy.
No one need to buy negative opinions or so but trying to suppress truly occurring issues is childish. One needs to be mature to accept criticism. Whether twitter or elsewhere...
Again as a OCI, pointing out any issue is treated by this govt more as unpatriotic. (This strategy was successfully used by Bush/Trump to polarize the US). It is not good in the long term to do that.
Again many of the complaints are not out of spite. It is truly from heart many have optimism and feel let down. This is even inside the Indian consulate - I once was told that visit us only if you want to give a positive vibe (when I politely asked them as they printed place of birth with typo).
Note that US citizens complain about NSA spying, abortion rights etc.
Given poor law/order people can disappear in India. Take citizens that are languishing in prison. Again US police are not perfect but there are due procedures in the DOJ-USA. And getting a driving license or registering a house in US/EU will not need bribes.
Listening to complaints is the first step.
One can politely disagree. By banning things they create a chilling effect.
and please do not all the time compare to Congress govt. This is similar to blaming British. Yes, all that happened - just move on - NOW do good to current citizens.
No point in having dirty beaches complaining about Congress or British.
This leaves them with two choices - either they stop doing business in said countries, or maximize profits by conducting business in those countries by loosening their belief system to include the countries' negatives, such as censorship of political discourse in this case.
The censorship is taking place either way right? Why not take the money?
Their morality is just conditional
Being based out of mostly western countries, corporations like Google and Microsoft found the belief system of quitting Russian business initiatives as most acceptable to the public, and hence executed that plan. A western worldview where it may have been more acceptable for Russia to initiate a war would have resulted in a different outcome.
Do you really believe big tech cared about some wArCrImEs, instead of getting a call from their lobbyist/investor/gov.account advising them to play along, or else?
JFYI, YouTube (and the whole of Google) is still operational in Russia, I can still use my iPhone, pay for iCloud, and buy a new one as soon as I want.
Business is business, I don't understand why people ever suppose it would be fighting for their political goals.
To a point they will lock you up for sedition,without trial for a decade and if you are really lucky, some stupid judge will be allowed to let you go on a planted technicality.
I am not bragging but I've survived been charged with "waging war against India" whatever the hell that means and having my wits in the moment saved my sorry ass. Most are not so lucky.
I am a dissenting voice that will keep dissenting. I've helped in various projects over the years in trying to "spread the voice" and its all I ever want to do.
There is a war between me the person and the government and its just a matter of who wins.
Let them try to control the internet, gfw is working but its not like its immune.
I will find a way to make the voices heard. If it means someone Better than me has to chance the reins if I fall, well that's what we do.
You feel that's horrible? Sure, that's your right. But the moral universalism of the anglophone cultural sphere has long alienated a majority of Indians exposed to it, that at this point their opinions do not get any goodwill from Indians.
Progressive media has published enough news that run absolutely opposite to the lived experience of a majority of the Indians that at this point they don't give a crap.
I would even say that every report of far-right authoritarianism of Modu's India liberal media publishes, greater the support for Modi from Indians. I say this as someone who thinks of him as an absolutely mediocre administrator.
It seems to be a common issue among liberal anglophones to confuse democracy with liberal democracy.
There has been no evidence of BJP rigging National or state elections until now. In fact parties like TMC which progressive media often hail for opposing BJP have been found to indulge in electoral violence and rigging [1]. These parties run unhindered in what english media essentially calls the Nazi regime of Modi.
Where is the evidence for BJP winning due to suppressing political parties? A political party or politician who you don't like being elected (in free and fair elections) does not qualify.
[1] https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/kolkata/tmc-accused...
EDIT: sidenote: Electoral violence seems to mainly be an issue in West Bengal. Other states have a lot of issues but the scale of gratuitous bloodshed that follows elections is a unique characteristic of the state. That no Indian government past or current has tackled this issue, only speaks for the inability of the Indian state to effectively project hard power.
This is basically the state in Russia. I would not call Russia a democracy therefore your argument does not convince me India is one either.
The parent is correct. Control over media, and jailing witness who implicates top government employees is exactly what happened in Russia just before the invasion.
Your statement does not jibe well with the lived reality of most Indians. We have plenty of access to critical coverage of the ruling party and its leader. Plenty of journalists are living their lives, paying rent and venting out their frustrations against the government on twitter without being arrested.
A sample of Indian publications that are critical of BJP:
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/national-politics/govt...
https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/hindutva-pop-hate
https://www.newslaundry.com/2022/12/24/aaj-tak-and-india-tv-...
https://thewire.in/politics/twitter-amit-malviya-bjp-it-cell...
https://thewire.in/politics/if-rahul-gandhi-were-really-irre...
https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/bjp-accused-of-using-app-tek-fo... and https://restofworld.org/2022/the-wire-vs-meta-india/ - This bit of critical journalism was found to be outright creative writing. But since you Anglos don't trust Indians on how their own country works maybe check out Alex Stamos of the Stanford Cyber Policy Center on this piece of news. I couldn't care less about the guy but maybe you will give his words weight. The reason I am giving this example is because this is a clear cut example of journalists publishing literal fake news critical of the governement and going about their lives without imprisonment and consequences.
Time to time a corrupt politician tries to throw around their weight and gets people arrested, but our legal system typically strikes down the case. This is a problem with every political party in India but we don't have mass imprisonment of journalists critical of BJP as some publications may want you to think.
Still matches Russia until about 2019 (btw 5 years after initial invasion) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/06/russian-parlia... , which coincidentally was 9 years after it became clear to me personally it was a totalitarian state.
> But since you Anglos don't trust Indians
Laughable to hear, considering I am from Russia, and have hands-on experience, that is very relatable with the treatment of student-led protests. Also considering, that you are coming from a state, that requests videos to be removed from YouTube for political reasons (BTW also 100% same as Russia), toward the state that does not.
> The reason I am giving this example is because this is a clear cut example of journalists publishing literal fake news critical of the government and going about their lives without imprisonment and consequences.
I hope you understand, that this argument has no logical bearing on the issue. E.g. from `P(A)`, `P(B)`, and `not B` it does not follow, than `not A`. I hope I don't need to explain what P, A and B in this case.
In regards for the video, it does not even present a one-sided story. E.g. it mentions the absolution of Modi by Supreme Court on the lack of evidence ground. But the rest of the video makes a compelling case why that absolution is hard to trust.
Pick up any 24x7 Indian news channels, and you can find govt being disrespected by half of the panel. Sure that doesn't justify certain action by the govt but I too think, one needs to be in India to understand India.
Modi or no Modi, things have been same as far I recall. Only new we have now is free internet which has amplified everything.
> You feel that's horrible? Sure, that's your right
Of course it is horrible. Thanks to the free internet (Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook) we can further promote our interests. Sincerely, the NSA /s
Modi is going to do more fascist stuff and take away rights one after another. The supporters will keep inventing reasons every single time. It will always point to the caste order's interests
But that’s not the end of it. Sure Hindus (who are not nearly as monolithic as you think) appreciate that BJP seems to be supporting their values but that in itself would not have been enough. Modi’s success comes from being perceived as someone who gets things done. I was recently Gujarat UP and Delhi and talked to people from all walks of life. There’s a huge amount of optimism that life is getting better and rightly or wrongly Modi is getting credit for it. Maybe it’s a mirage. Maybe it would have been just as good with someone else but this is in fact the perception on the ground and those who want an alternative ignore it at their peril.
Also thank you for proving my point above. Lol
If you cannot do either, you need to wear the garland of shame, lies and more.
If you have time travel technology I’ll definitely vote for you.
Meanwhile back in reality the one who has a compelling vision for the future and a plausible record in executing it will win the election. Do you have someone like that in mind?
Chill. I thought Upper caste population is the smallest size.
They have a large support from other castes now because Muslims are the enemies now. Until this narrative stays they will stay.
This tribal president and the previous dalit president are exactly what I mean by their election winning formula. I'm not sure what's illogical in any of this because this is literally what they themselves speak about in every election meeting.
In Telangana, someone was arrested for making fun of the CM’s nose: https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/andhra-student-arre...
These are all parties that are opposed to the BJP. I wish there were parties that are committed to liberalism, rule of law and institution building in India. Not very optimistic at the moment.
But otherwise agree with you. Yogi Adityanath another possible successor to Modi is also not from a privileged background.
Who has ever tried visiting any ru-net platforms, for example?
The EU tried to grow some local big techs with government subsidies but the results were predictably garbage. The Airbus business model doesn't transfer well to consumer technology. If the EU really wants homegrown big techs then they need to reduce employee protections, eliminate red tape, encourage venture capital markets, and make business bankruptcies easier.
In 2 countries in Europe, Chromebooks have been ruled incompatible and schools have been prohibited from rolling them out under this rationale, with more countries likely to come with similar rulings. Just one example of the internet and tech splintering. EU also wants to do nonsense that would not fly in the US like Chat Control. What happens to US-based non-compliant services? Looks like some way of banning them needs to come next...
As a US citizen and strong advocate of civilian relations across geography, I have to object to throwing out all possibilities in a bitter moment of finger pointing. "Increasingly" is weasel words, just say "know" :-)
1. there are really two definitions of the internet. A. the set of networks that use the internet protocol. B. the sum of all interconnected networks.
2. But what about the multiverse? you loudly exclaim. Like I said by definition the universe is the whole thing. even once you expand your domain past it's original boundary the whole thing is still the universe. your original domain would now be considered a subverse.
In the cases I've been personally involved with, it added significant costs to comply to move processing and storage onto Indian territory data centers that are run by large US corporate cloud vendors anyways. If you're large enough, it doesn't matter. If your use case serves a small enough long tail where it ends up on the wrong side of that added cost burden cutoff, then it matters. And I think that is unfortunate, because I see lots of Indian innovation happening inside that long tail, and such restrictions disadvantage the smaller scale efforts where the novel propositions seem particularly rich.
But perhaps I simply don't have sufficient data and perspective, so I'd welcome Indians closer to the action to help me understand why this is in India's interests. If I had to guess, I suspect the thinking is similar to China's: it is too strategic an area to give up, and India has enough population where it doesn't matter they are ring fenced into a walled garden as "only" the domestic market is big enough to stand within its own island market.
Companies technologically focused or not have to comply with local regulations on a number of things: privacy, age restrictions, medical, gdpr, hipaa, etc. So you can't "just follow international norms" You have to follow local norms.
In the West we had tech coordinate Covid, election and other information with government.
But now the West is "uncomfortable" with others wanting to set their own narratives because we disagree with them for differing reasons.
One is hard pressed to say one is right and the other is wrong. They are the same coin showing different sides.
I think the better model is for companies to stand by their morals (even if they're weak) rather than bending to the unique tyrannical demands of each sovereign nation. Microsoft's choice here is honestly the most admirable to me, even though I despise them as a company.
Maybe tax the sh*t out of whatever profits they make in oppressive countries? "Go ahead and profit from dealing with Whateverstan, but we'll take most of it away from you."
If India make it illegal to host a video critical of their PM, and google block that video from access in India that's one thing
If Thailand make it illegal to slag of their king and google block users from Thailand watching a video about the king that's a similar thing
If Europe make it illegal to track users without their consent and google block users from Europe that's a similar thing
If China make it illegal to talk about Winnie the Pooh google block users from China searching, that's a similar thing
If America make it illegal to talk about tools to circumvent DVD copyright protection and block users from America searching, that's a similar thing
In all cases Google is obeying local law so they can do business in those countries, but that local law applies to local people.
Now copyright (not DMCA but Bern style copyright) is, so I could see why google would remove a BBC copyrighted film, although they tend to ignore copyrighted material unless the copyright holder complains.
The advertising forms sell space to Chinese advertisers, the hardware forms sell their hardware, the software firms... See their software used everywhere, but only sometimes getting paid for it, and are chomping at the bit to turn that around. SAAS vendors are largely getting the short end of the stick, but most of them also make money from one of the fields above.
Cultural exports, mostly in the form of films, of course, are also booming.
If the US, the EU, China, or India says 'jump', most of them will, after complaining about it, eventually ask 'how high'? That's just the nature of the business. (And is why they also have extensive lobbying operations.)
As for BBC "The Modi Question", comes from wrong place itself. India has left that issue long ago, but internal and external forces who doesn't much on Modi in politics plays same card again and again.
Few videos I found to their narrative - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkVQ4RNxBB4
Truth about Godhra 2002 riot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcn4Yv-dR-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUI1Cc0gkcU
PS: Author AKASH BANERJEE is well know youtuber who extreme leftist. India's are not interested in people who cant represent them anymore. We lack centrist government / opposition.
> but internal and external forces who doesn't much on Modi in politics plays same card again and again.
Is the BJP's "IT cell" spreading propaganda on HN now too?
EDIT: totally wrote that without checking out parent's profile
> user: relavir212
> created: 16 minutes ago
They are so accepting of criticism, that every time one criticizes them, they get banned from India's Twitter.
This isn't a real account and should be flagged.
The most I can see is fear-mongering and creating artificial victimhood against them for clout and political reasons, but that happens on both sides and has been happening since time immemorial. If this is about Kashmir, their drastic steps, albeit excessively totalitarian and cruel to Kashmiris, are for retaining their sovereignty before anything else. They would have done the same had there been any other religion.
And don't get me started on Twitter. For every account banned for "misinformation" there are a thousand others that keep on shitting on the administration. It's Twitter for God's sake.
You aren't contributing anything with your ad hominem painting of the entire government as hateful to Muslims other than fear-mongering.
Also, I suspect the US likes a monolithic YouTube from a “iPod diplomacy” perspective - being the cultural centre of the world is an advantage!
I'd love to hear somebody from India explain it: my guess is that religious politics and political religion have been India's problem from before the partition, and it's a fissure that Congress typically tried to ignore, while, rather awkwardly, it's been sticking its elephantine trunk in everybody's drinks while taking up eight tenths of the room.
Modi drives straight at the problem, takes a position, then relies on the demographics to carry him through. There are more Hindus, so in a democracy, taking a Hindu-first perspective is sound electoral strategy.
The Congress/UPA's reputation was severely trampled out when BJP/NDA rose to power in 2014, and it hasn't recovered since. BJP has perfected the art of media manipulation and public politics, and is extremely competent in directing and subverting public sentiment; they are one of the biggest populist forces in the world right now with a formidable and highly-skilled marketing force backing its brand (enough to get featured on Harvard whitepapers). More importantly, they learn and adapt quickly to changing environments. For example, after the JNU fiasco they now seem to recognise the importance of moderation and avoid going gung-ho on dissent in practice (e.g. their prolonged tolerance to the Farm Law protests) while keeping a public image of firebrand rightism to maintain their brand. They are intelligent, very intelligent.
Its opposition, meanwhile, has only gone downhill and keeps embarrassing itself. Opposition parties neither have a well-built plan or timeline, nor do they invoke any significant loyalty from voters. They keep infighting and bickering among themselves while retaining dynastic figureheads from an already disgraced family. They're all so in on themselves they still try to use the same half-baked strategies that used to work in the 2000s.
Do you know why third parties haven't come to the fore? I can see that the Congress party has a bunch of problems that are pretty inherent to the party DNA, but did the people who used to vote Congress because they liked secularism and universalism just stop liking those things?
BJP/NDA simply outclasses every other force in terms of its outreach and marketing prowess, and with the kind of control it now has over mainstream media, challenging them will be a herculean task at least for the time being (and filled with a very tangible risk of self-destruction).
At the end if the majority (mostly boomers) that do not want change continue to do this it is saddening for the young. But of course, when it bites them it may be too late.
Sad but democracy in function.
Especially the UK, who have been trying to prop up the Gandhi-Nehru family party, their heirs and Brown sahibs.
Same here. If Indians, split from Internet - and if the majority (perhaps boomers etc), decide it is the right decision - may be OK - but likely they will lose in the long term - in terms of education, awareness, global participation etc.
In some ways, top Indian MNC can benefit from talent not leaving India.
Sure some will say, we have our own space program, etc - but lets be honest - it will take decades to even build a new operating system. Cooperation in science, tech benefits all humanity.
Outsiders' image of India is through the narrative of the media, which has no connection to reality. The Indian government is also actively engaging in fake news dissemination. Here is a tweet from Michael Kugelman, South Asia Institute Director of The Wilson Center and writer of Foreign Policy's weekly South Asia Brief
Michael Kugelman on Twitter: "The scale and duration of the EU/UN-centered Indian disinformation campaign exposed by @DisinfoEU is staggering. Imagine how the world would be reacting if this were, say, a Russian or Chinese operation." / Twitter