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Comment by erenyeager | Hacker News Reader

As a current medical student, I can confirm that school in the US teaches us “gender affirming” ideology acceptance without really much question or giving alternative perspectives. There was an entire required session where a “gender affirming” care doctor said we should imagine “cis people” as being “just as weird as trans people” and to reflect on our own idea of self-gender. When a Q&A question was posed about if gender transition is medically necessary (which is not easy to post about, btw, as during these sessions you are recorded in a zoom and anonymous questions are turned off; so everyone can see the full name of the person who asked, and it is recorded in a transcript also). The doctor responded dismissively about any doubt in the necessity of gender transition.

Medical education and the medical institution is full of agenda pushing and ideology by the way, do not get me started on the day they introduced nurse practitioners as fellow “providers” who only want to make our jobs easier, while laws are being passed giving them full practice authority and expanding their scope to the detriment of doctors.

Do you object to the “cis people are also weird, gender is weird” bit? Why? It’s always seemed very weird to me that the vast majority of people DO align with gender roles and DO enjoy the sexually dimorphic body they have, even though that body had a 50-50 chance of being the other sex and cultural ideas of gender seem to be pretty randomly assigned (the clothes men and women are supposed to wear change over time, for example). Why aren’t more people unhappy because they are not the other sex? Either there’s something innate that tells you you are a certain sex and makes you want to imitate others of that sex - in which case obviously it can go wrong, hence transgenderism, and that’s a completely neutral thing to happen - or it’s all cultural brainwashing and we might as well let people choose their bodies and gender expression anyway.

The nuclear family fills in the gaps left by hardware.

My guess is that psychological gender identity is USUALLY linked to biological sex in the majority of people.

>It’s always seemed very weird to me that the vast majority of people DO align with gender roles and DO enjoy the sexually dimorphic body they have, even though that body had a 50-50 chance of being the other sex

Prior to conception there is a 50/50 chance of being a man or a woman, but once a child enters development, being non-gender-conforming is very rare. I think people confuse the little arbitrary cultural details here (eg: girls like pink) for deeply-seated traits which are innate to gender. (eg: women have periods, and can carry children)

"People are strange

When you estranged

Faces look ugly

When you're alone"

J. Morisson

(Everybody is strange and weird in their own ways)

As a non-Muslim, I wonder about the medical necessity of male or female circumcision, especially as it is commonly practiced without the consent of the patient. The latter is illegal in the US as of 2021, but the former seems a much larger and more pressing issue than gender affirming care.

I just don't get the obsession with this topic. If you're a parent, your kids are being told things you don't like all the time, including being propositioned or being offered recreational drugs. This is very low on my list of worries. Talk to them to help them make better decisions, using logical arguments instead of groundless religious commandments. Problem solved.

As I detailed in another comment, I definitely think that the pendulum has been swinging too far to the unsafe side of medical opinion about trans people, because of the somewhat toxic culture of the left. (this is an introspective by one of these people). I think the answer is probably more government regulation that strikes a balance between requiring diagnosis and the crazy stuff like the UK NHS or banning all trans healthcare.

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