Jira is awful, welcome to AJIR
ajir.app
ajir.app
I click on 'Jobs' and am taken to a completely blank page.
The only other link is 'Login'.
Can I suggest you provide more user feedback as to what they're expected to do to break out of this unhelpful first experience?
Just click on login and you will receive a magic link.
Joke apart and like said on other answers, onboarding is rough but will improve it.
Once you are in, you can use all the features.
that was the exact same problem Jira had...
Click login and you will receive a magic link.
Then you can try the tool.
I want to change an "issue" to an "epic", and I'm presented with a workflow more becoming a database migration, which of course, isn't far from the truth. They've made their poor design choices your problem, so when you want to do something like this, what you're actually presented with is all the complexity of migrating data from one database table to another with different fields.
That's just one example, but I can tell I'm ranting already. I hate Atlassian _so fucking much_ though.
It says enough that it's not marketed to people who do the work, but those who "manage" their work, where no management is needed. May it and Atlassian burn in hell for a long time. Amen.
Hope you like AJIR then.
So onboarding is shit, I understood and will improve it asap.
You actually have to click on login, and you will receive a magic link in your inbox.
Please refer to the blog to discover AJIR, specifically this article: https://www.ajir.app/blog/ajir-in-a-nutshell/
It is still very early, I will improve the blog, the documentation, etc. over time...
Your landing page needs to communicate enough value for visitors to be willing to invest their time in it. Your "Get started" button seems to offer the promise of revealing that value, under the possibly over-optimistic assumption that the visitor will immediately detect that greatness without it being explained or shown to them first, something that only happens in the most extreme of cases where the greatness is immediately obvious in the first few seconds of interacting with an app, and which is rarely the case for task management apps.
Will improve the onboarding and the landing, for sure.
Btw, you don't have to 'register', just click on login, you will receive a magic link in your inbox, then all of AJIR's feature are open to use for free.
Under "Only what you need to manage products" you have 6 boxes that describe features. The boxes are. in 2 rows of three for my screen size. The second row's secondary text is 2 lines long for the first 2 boxes and 3 lines long for the last box. Because of the box size, the last box is taller and the grid is thus uneven. Either making the copy in that box 2 lines long (maybe lose the words "your code") or setting a min height on the boxes or something would make the grid even.
Other than that, and much more importantly, I have no idea why I'd use this over any other project management tool. Maybe a feature comparison between the major players would help. Or tell me why you're simpler, faster, more novel, etc than other options.
I also don't know your pricing. It says "Try for free". What does "try" mean? Does "trying" end? Then what happens?
It is still early and like mentioned in other comments, onboarding is quite bad at the moment and landing page needs improvements as well.
I focused on the app itself so far :-)
To answer your question about pricing, it means it's entirely free at the moment, didn't even implement payment !
I was tired of using JIRA, Confluence and co so I built AJIR as a better alternative to manage product building.
The platform is built around 3 main object types: Product, Feature and Task. The first two are here to stay and organized as tree. You can document each of the Products and Features, so your documentation is always organized following the exact same hierarchy (that you can change anytime, by the way).
Tasks are here to come and go as they are executed.
Around these 3 main objects, you will find different features to track time, time sheet automatically, build roadmaps, track budget consumption, and more.
You can track commits, tags as well (Github integration).
AJIR also has an API that you can use to track bugs, user feedbacks and help request. AJIR's API can also be used to track deployments of your apps/products across different environments.
Looking for users and feedbacks ! It's free.
I plan to improve AJIR of course, but also to build better documentation on how to use it, as well as a few Looms to present different features and use cases.
Lionel
Don't hesitate if you have other questions.
I assume the intention is to use the Login link. If so then I think that should be at the forefront instead of the empty pages.
Yes, the intention is to use the login link.
Once your logged in, you can start using all of AJIR's features for free.
Please refer to the first blog articles explaining the app's concept and some of its features: https://www.ajir.app/blog/ajir-in-a-nutshell/
Like I said in the initial post, I will improve the doc and try to make Looms.
Given that it's already posted to HN, fixing that button so it shows a page containing something other than the words "jobs" and "home", and/or so the links under those words do something other that point back to the same page, should probably be top priority.
What didn't work with the get started button ?
Yes, I didn't work on onboarding yet. You actually have to login to start using the app.
I will fix the onboarding to avoid this kind of bad first impression, sorry.
And sorry for the rough onboarding, will improve it asap.
Should be clearer.
By the way, you can track dependencies at 2 levels: Features, like described above, and Tasks.
Then, your dependencies are display in both ways (uses, used by)
Was my answer clear ? Happy to help.
Is there any plan for Jira Server/Cloud import? I think the major roadblock for a lot of people moving away from those platforms is that most competitors either don't support project import at all, or don't correctly deal with custom fields, workflows, etc.
No plans at the moment but it should be feasible.
We've switched from JIRA to Linear.app more than year ago, and never looked back. With JIRA our team members were getting blocked in the flows quite a bit, now with linear we're much more efficient.
But still is very much Issues oriented, no ?
What i wanted to do with AJIR is create something that has both Task management and Product/Features documentation in a well integrated way, i.e. having a documentation that is 'self-organized' in the very same hierarchy than your Products/Features tree.
Was I clear enough ?
Been in the making for 7 years, is in use by famous big-corps for few years already.
Bi-directional Jira integration built-in.
I am not mentioning the name of the tool simply because the landing page is really not where I want it to be at the moment
If you are looking for a solution in the field can DM me and I'll give you access to the code before we complete all the open source preparation.
Our speciality is that the tool solves both the communication problem (Trello, Asana) and the planning problem (MS Projects). Typical client will have 50-400 active users.
-Daniel
Best of luck with this and hope you solved that problem :)
But something that got me off my high horse ... someone said Jira is a mirror and you are a corporation. When you look into it, and you think it's ugly, you're looking at your own red tape reflecting back at you.
It doesn't forgive all of it. It just makes me pause a second.
But still, I think it's possible to do better/clearer/simpler.
The tool itself promotes terrible ways of working. "Agile", with a capital corporate A. For arsehole.
Will improve the onboarding that is quite shitty.
Got harsh feedbacks :-(
Sorry for it guys !
I shipped a small onboarding improvement.
Is it really that annoying ?
I don't think I broke any rule...
Case closed.
Authentication is just based on magic links sent to your email.
(2) Whatever you consider annoying is most certainly different from what I would consider annoying
(3) I need to trust you which I don't because of (1)
No, you don't have to. You want to.
The concept of tying email addresses to user accounts came Google to better track their users. Of course thankfully taken over from everybody in the industry.
Especially when you offer a "free" trial for your software you should not ask your users to pay with their data. Even first before they see what they'll get for in exchange.
You literally ask me to pay the price first before I see the product
Easy.
I would be surprised if your app would have a "change your email/login" function implemented.