> Why does Thunderbird look so old
UI isn't a fashion show. I'd much rather have a UI that looks older but is comfortable to use than something trendy.
UI isn't a fashion show. I'd much rather have a UI that looks older but is comfortable to use than something trendy.
*I send emails in plaintext, don't tell me about S/MIME.
So they could keep the good old HN alive for PCs.
> A UI that looks and feels modern is getting initially implemented with version 115 in July, aiming at offering a simple and clean interface for “new” users, as well as the implementation of more customizable options with a flexible and adaptable interface to allow “old” users to maintain that familiarity they love.
I don't understand why today's new users shouldn't be able to cope with an interface any old new user didn't have any problem using. However as long as they keep the promise not to take away the current convenient interface, they can do whatever they feel like to remove functionality for a dumb modern mode.
If there's no theming support, then yeah, at minimum a dark mode is a totally reasonable request.
edit: or were you talking about HN?
Old reddit + RES is entirely better in every regard. New reddit is utter garbage tho.
I quickly found a new client, but not one I love. If thunderbird does get a UI overhaul I'd give them another chance, and it sounds like they're moving towards a UI that I at the very least would prefer.
Yes, it is. At least, it is for UI designers.
Very few changes I see these days actually improve anything; they are merely change for the sake of providing evidence to justify the UI designers' salaries.
If something already works, and we know how to use it, there had better be a damn good reason for changing it, because you are burdening thousands, millions, or even billions of people with yet another entirely unnecessary learning task in our already over-stressed lives.
We are far past the time when the new version of X will be seen by orders of magnitude more users than the previous version, so it'll be only the minority that have to relearn, and the majority will enjoy the improved UI (assuming that the new stuff is actually an improvement; BIG assumption). Today, most of it will burden existing users.
You want to make the colors prettier, add a dark/night mode, round the corners, highlight things a bit better? Wonderful. Just don't mess with the organization.
And don't mess with discoverability and ergonomics. I hate buttons that don't look like buttons, controls littering the title bar so that I can't use it to move the window, etc etc
There is a degree of modern style needed because Thunderbird does not exist in a vacuum. Windows evolved, macOS evolved, iPhone/Android look different than 1997 Windows .. which Thunderbird looked like the last years.
I'm skeptical that normal, non-technical users actually benefit from or even prefer all this crap. Someone does, but I'm not convinced it's them.
By the time it was renamed Thunderbird, Netcraft had already confirmed /. was dead. Now get off my lawn!