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This whole essay is really just Mozilla complaining that they aren't on anyone's radar anymore and should be disregarded as bullcrap.

Firefox once upon a time defeated IE6 despite home turf advantage, to say nothing of Chrome which played that game even better.

If Mozilla wants more market share, maybe they should make software people actually fucking want.

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How many people choose a browser, compared to those that use whatever the OS defaults to/pushes on them?

Microsoft Edge's main purpose is to download Chrome.

Windows now ships with wget or curl (can't remember which) so there's no longer any need to use its browser!

The millions if not billions of Windows users who choose to use Chrome?

Also, using the OS default is also a choice. If someone uses Edge in Windows, that's a choice.

It's only iOS where users have no choice.

Chrome is also pushed quite aggressively by Google

And they continue to win the fight Mozilla cannot.

OS restrictions, if any, are not the reason Mozilla is dead in the water.

How exactly? Microsoft has been randomly resetting my default browser back to Edge on every big Windows update. They've thrown Edge on my desktop against my wish. They keep buggering me to change the default back.

And yet, somehow, Chrome is still more popular. So what are those horrible tactics Google uses to brainwash people into using their browsers when both of their major competitors use their own operating systems to either harass or ouright force the use of their browsers for the users?

Back in the IE days they (Google) did push it pretty hard. There are definitely still some cases where Google could (and should) do better about keeping their services browser-agnostic, but it's way less prominent than it was before.

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They are pushing pretty hard RIGHT NOW.

Oh After rereading this I think you thought I meant Microsoft. I was talking about Google and chrome. Microsoft's pushes for Bing and Edge in Windows are definitely over the top.

Both sides are over the top, and Google's winning.

Mozilla is farting vapid air with this essay.

Google sometimes bugs you to download Chrome within unrelated search results.

How is that more effective that Microsoft outright resetting your default browser and pushing it in your face on reboots?

They advertise it on the google.com homepage. Which is quite the prime location to advertise. That said, I do think that Chrome has taken over mostly on merit. In many ways it is the best browser. It's just a shame it's so dominant because a monopoly situation rarely works out well for end users.

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