Actors Say They’re Being Asked to Sign Away Their Voice to AI
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But in all honesty though, this could be great news - imagine not needing to do recall shoots because the dialogue was bad, and you can fill in a few sentences with this technology instead. Of course, it will be abused and used to not compensate actors for their work properly.
But if it develops rapidly I could imagine games and animation using "stock voices" in their productions, just like designers often use stock imagery. I'm sure someone is happy to sign away their voice for a few grand, and provide it to a stock voice library.
Her (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_(film) She's too smart for you anyway.
Upload (2020, 2022) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series) She buys in game credits for his existence.
Faust / The Little Mermaid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust#Cinematic_adaptations
"Final cut, Suit!" - Billy Walsh, Entourage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_Entourage_ch...
Final cut privilege: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_cut_privilege :
> typically reluctant
I sure hope not. That is equal to a few pennies in the grand scheme of things. Someone signing away their voice (not that I agree anyone ever should, for any reason) should require enormous compensation in return at a minimum.
And while popular existing actors might be able to demand enourmous compensation right now, I'm not really sure what level of compensation they deserve. In the end, we are probably moving towards entirely fictional actors for most movies anyway.
They already do this regularly in movies, it's part of the ADR process [0]. You've probably heard it many times and not even noticed.
I just kind of shudder at the thought of a voice actor signing over rights to their voice without appropriate compensation and their career just vanishing (assuming AI gets good enough to outright replace them completely)
In my view, any human that signs over such rights deserves to be well-compensated upfront and should ensure they have a contract that pays them significant royalties for each subsequent use. I suppose maybe the most important part of all of this work-wise is just to have a reasonable contract so one retains some control.
Of course, all of this I say with the disclaimer that I'm not certain I think anyone should sign over such rights. I freely admit I come at this from a perspective that is biased against audio/visual/text-generating (and potentially other forms of) AI, unless it is significantly reigned in through restrictions/regulations. I do not look forward to an AI-dominated future of soulless pseudo-art generated by entertainment corporations.
you may have never heard of Emma Clarke, but if you live in the UK you've heard her voice a thousand times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Clarke
Imagine if instead of having to record every number, placename, announcement, she could just read a short script, and then every possible message could be autogenerated from that. the end result would be the same for her, but much less work.
Now think about models who do photoshoots. They get paid for individual photoshoots, just like Emma got paid for providing her voice for that one particular customer (the TFL). But if you can't afford custom model photos for your website/brochure, you can go to a stock image bank and just find some decent photos.
You may not have heard of András István Arató but I'm sure you know his face:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_the_Pain_Harold
Extend these two concepts to voiceover, and you arrive at the fact that "voiceprint stock libraries" are a guaranteed eventuality. Emma and Andras were both willing to sell their voice and image to someone. In Andras' case, he doesn't even know who the end-user is. Instead of just choosing from a set of Andras stock photographs, you might also purchase a license to his voice, and use it to overdub your advertisement. - because someone, maybe not you, but someone, will be happy to take a few grand and let people use their voice, just like people sell their photos to stock libraries.
There is an undeniable human aspect to it that AI won't ever be able to replace. Sure, it'll probably be an important part of the industry, but saying all future media is going to be 24/7 AI generated content like that Seinfeld twitch stream is a pretty bleak view of the future.
We watch movies because we try to connect with people and share our feelings with humans. I can't relate to an AI.
Why do you think an AI could not replicate this? AI has shown a remarkable ability to achieve things once thought impossible for an algorithm.
Humanity is recent in the cosmos, modern computing and AI are not 100 years old. You think your statement will hold in 1000 or 10000 years? You obviously believe the human brain is something supernatural which I do not (in fact, the past 10 years of AI boosts kind of convinced me our brain mechanism is vastly simpler than we thought; it’s just a complex, overarchitected implementation), but even believing that, we are just beginning to scratch the surface. I think it can do a convincing simile within years, at max decades from now. Something you cannot tell apart on the screen or audio. You might not even be told it is an AI.
Cults can often convince all kinds of people of all kinds of things. Long ago LaPlace asserted a clockwork universe; that didn't hold water for too long. Too simplistic.
Just kidding, but really, anecdotes don't constitute evidence that the mind is a 'brain mechanism'. Yep, many of our voluntary and involuntary routine behaviors are quite robot-like .. breathing, eating, sleeping, sexing. That said, some of us are less content with the routine.
The expert systems now being referred to as 'artificial intelligence' are limp P.T. Barnum simulations of true intelligence, and of course there is little substantial evidence to support -any- model of creativity or consciousness ... let alone a mechanical one. In the face of that lack of evidence, a supernatural theory is no worse than a mechanical one.
I prefer and will continue to prefer real intelligence and creativity of the human kind because it is substantially superior to limp simulations ... and because I am a human. I'll resist lowering my standards. Those who've tried to teach machines the mechanics of music have learned from continued failure that great music is beyond any of our so-called 'music theory'. I'll confidently assert that the same is true of dramatic performances.
It's entirely possible that this statement applies to your brain specifically, but not necessarily to all brains
This deserves zooming in on. There seem to be only two options.
1. There are supernatural forces, and we have magical things like a human soul
2. There are no supernatural forces, and our brains are a series of chemical and electrical states, and nothing else
If it is option 2, then you must accept that it is plausible that a machine could be made which could also have those those states, and navigate them like our biological machine. Which path of development leads to this is unknown, but it is illogical to me to say things like "won't ever be able to replace" humans.
I am only repeating and expanding on what you said because this is a realization which I only came to relatively recently and thought it is worth sharing.
It's currently not true for image generation.
"You mean meep meep?"
"Nah, they only paid me to say it once. Then they doubled it up on the soundtrack. Cheap bastards."
Pay close attention that what's going on is that technology is used to take control of a person's identity and their likeness, that's where the value in actors voices is. People are required to hand over their own identity to even obtain a job.
This is actually nothing less than servitude. Imagine if it was someone's body instead of their likeness that needed to be handed over to an employer. A voice actor selling the rights to their voice to a company is akin to a laborer selling rights to their hands. I'd honestly say we very quickly need an inalienable right to one's own likeness.
Then you have them using CGI mark hamil as Luke.
Actors need to all get together and never sign away their image and voice rights unless they get paid handsomely each time someone consumes the content. It cannot be a one time payment.
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Unionize (SAG?) and lobby to pass laws against it. Hollywood actors still have money for lobbyists as long as they don't knifenose themselves by letting control over their likeness and IP rights slip away.
This happens to software developers on a regular basis, doesn't it ? Tired: replacing you with a lower-paid intern. Wired: replacing you with a lower-paid intern who got pretty handy with A.I. at university.