it's not a niche topic in the slightest little bit. if the defacto location for using chatGPT becomes bing.com (or whatever rebranding) that's huge.
Bringing ChatGPT to Bing would be similar to what GitHub did for MS’ DevRel.
I'm screaming internally at this.
I hadn't even thought of that, but now you say it, it's very plausible. It writes convincingly, avoids controversy, and with extensive but imperfect knowledge in far more domains than any real human, of course people will use it for dating.
When asked if she tried it, she not only didn't even realize that it was accessible to her, but didn't even bother to register to actually try it.
If Microsoft is smart about it, they call it "Microsoft Search with ChatGPT", do their "we'll place you a shortcut on your desktop without asking"-thing with an icon named "ChatGPT" which launches Edge even if Chrome or FFX is the default, and shows the "Microsoft Search with ChatGPT" page with an auto-submitted question like "If animals could talk, which species do you think would be the funniest to have a conversation with and why?".
Let them ask a few questions and finally ask them if they want to set Edge as their new default browser.
Another interesting thing is that she calls Google's recommendation engine "Adam". It's "Adam" who selects the photos which get shown in "this day a year ago" and other automatically generated collections. "Adam" is what makes Google smart for her, the restless data collector and invader of privacy.
If they pull it off, Sundar's Bard blog post would be a huge egg-on-face moment for Google, even bigger than when DeepMind said it would make a Go announcement soon and Zuck tried to steal its thunder. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/28/go-playin...
Pretty sure every student heard of it and many of them tried it.
Consumers don't care what it's called, but they surely will use it. Especially if it's built into a familiar search engine.
Google doesn't have any competition outside the US and the EU.
https://medium.com/@owenyin/scoop-oh-the-things-youll-do-wit...
a) understand what I'm trying to search for (e.g. when searching about specific errors like "windows taskbar bug showing empty windows in the taskbar for icons in the system tray"),
b) find the relevant information and answers, and
c) show links that I can go to to verify that information/answer
then I'd switch to Bing with ChatGPT for those types of search as Google has been getting steadily worse around this.
For the search above, Google shows results for blank/missing icons in the taskbar, etc. which are not the issue I'm trying to find information about. There are many other queries I've tried to get information from by a Google search, but haven't been able to make Google understand what I'm looking for -- instead, it tries to figure out what I mean, but ends up returning unrelated results.
I’ve been skeptical about the value of AI driven services despite the results, I’ve got DiffusionBee on my MacBook Pro with me everywhere, I use it from time to time and it’s surprisingly useful…
But the effort to train myself on prompt engineering in order to get the kinds of results that are worth me paying a monthly service for… sorry that’s where it falls apart. I’ve got shit to do and these things are meant to be “smart” and save time. I don’t really have time to learn an entirely undocumented domain specific language hidden inside the ML model. I got early access to GPT v3 and the other OpenAI models in their limited public beta periods… I’ve used my beta credits and all that… the thing is… I clearly don’t think/write/talk like other people other because universally my results have been fucking garbage until I sit down and think very hard what the computer might be expecting in order to get better results.
This continues to frustrate me as I’ve done tech support for a living for years earlier in my career, described technical computer related concepts and instructions to someone over the phone with no way to know what’s going on except asking them what they are seeing on their computer… and no I wasn’t just reading off a flow chart, about the only cheat sheet I needed was a list of useful keyboard shortcuts to get to things like system info, and some screenshots of windows desktops to make it easier to quickly describe visual points of reference for things to help guide the user I was helping… I did it so long I’ve been told I have a “tech support voice” when I mode switch into trying to genuinely help someone with a computer… and all these ML tools before ChatGPT where to use a colloquialism “as thick as two short planks” and dealing with them (prior to ChatGPT) was very frustrating. The ChatGPT is genuinely quite a lot better at understanding me and while it is prone to hallucinations and i continue to find the shallow pools of creativity where it absolutely loves to repeat itself (I once asked to generate a list of 50 name suggestions for specific kind of company and managed to get it to repeat itself twice) …
Point is I’d absolutely pay for this and probably halve the amount of google search (if not more since it’s hard to gauge a count of how much automatic almost reflex rephrases and re-searching I do on google due to poor results ) I use if I can pay for this to ensure good service quality. This is definitely worth $25AU a month if it doesn’t suck.
Out of curiosity would this the one one of the emps characterized as "sentient"?
Not everyone want's the "correct" version of the internet either. Some or many will want a firehose for themselves and a filtered version for their kids, etc.
People will still look for ChatGPT website
They won't look for "Bing" to use ChatGPT
It's similar with Edge, even after they moved to Chromium, most people use it to download Chrome
Google will soon release their own ChatGPT, so it's already game over for Bing
Microsoft didn't make ChatGPT, so there is no brand fidelity among ChatGPT users
And if you use ChatGPT, you don't need to use Bing or Google, it's just a web app; once you found it, you don't need to look for it again, you bookmark it, or it's in your browser history and accessible from your address bar
I don't understand this movement to promote Microsoft/Bing, when the star of the show is ChatGPT itself, ChatGPT makes Google/Bing useless to begin with
On that note, couldnt Google just show bongs ChatGPT results? I suppose there are probably some legal issues there.
No insider knowledge, but it would seem a marketing snafu to go down that route. ChatGPT has brand awareness: Microsoft has exclusive access to ChatGPT. They've been canny with Github by _not_ branding it Microsoft.
>And if you use ChatGPT, you don't need to use Bing or Google
Indeed. So how can Microsoft disintermediate Google given they don't own either the browser or current internet search? Windows is one possibility: integrate ChatGPT direct into Windows search. The market certainly isn't as big as mobile - but it's not small either.
All speculation obviously. I'll have the popcorn out too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Agent
It is pretty amazing that there has been almost 25 years of attempts at this, and they have all been terrible, and suddenly overnight the world is enthralled because one works.
MS being MS I believe they will take the stupidest decision possible. And Google will take over with their Bard.
I mean this chatGPT thing isn't even that useful. I find it super weird that people are using it. Considering it's not accurate and the amount of guardrails, I find it a bit odd. But I love writing and I know how to write so maybe that's on me.
I just looked it up (never used it before), and it’s a “sign up” button behind a “try it” button on a landing page. You’re a HN user, but 95% of average internet users simply close the tab at this point.
ChatGPT offered and available right away in a browser urlsearch bar will make a revolution for a browser that does it.
Meta: ignoring nuances like this may make otherwise perfect and well-designed products CRASH. “It’s just few clicks away” puts an umbrella over your funnel.